Pendleside Festive Dingbats C/D 6Th Jan
Quizzes & Puzzles3 mins ago
Of course, we won’t be negotiating to rejoin until the nutters in the Tory party come to their senses and admit what a disaster Brexit is for the UK, and decide that they would like to get elected as a government, ditching their anti-EU stance.
As my mate Phil explains, 48% would vote to re-join if we had to adopt the Euro – how long before that figure becomes the majority; with 63% wanting to rejoin (without it being specified whether we adopt the Euro).
Not good news for the Brexiteers.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I don't think any of us who voted to leave expected it to run smoothly for years and gave a great deal of thought into our votes. We could see clearly what the EU had become. As it was, what happened afterwards in the way of a world crisis and a couple of wars made a great difference to expectations. No fault of Brexit. But the remoaners just can't see it. We have to move on. And NJ is right. Businesses did fail who hadn't prepared. Businesses have to change with the times to survive. Its always been the case.
It’s going to take at least 5 years, and probably more than 10 before we negotiate the terms of re-joining the EU.
At that time (whenever it is), let’s say 75% of the UK population want to re-join, and 65% if we have to adopt the Euro (I would say those polling numbers are not unrealistic) – and don’t forget, Poland joined on those terms 20 years ago and shows no sign of adopting the Euro.
Will the Brexiteers then (in 5 to 10 years time) still be claiming that a vote to re-join would be un-democratic?
Hymie - // Will the Brexiteers then (in 5 to 10 years time) still be claiming that a vote to re-join would be un-democratic? //
I wouldn;t.
But that's not my point.
My point is, democracy works on a majority voting system.
Just because you don;t like to result does not give you, and others, the right to offer thinly veiled assessements that anyone who voted for Brexit is an uninformed idiot.
It's offensive, and it gains you no support, or friends, except similarly pompous buffoons, on here.
As a leave voter I think it's only fair that in due course those who seek to rejoin the EU should be allowed another referendum. First you've got to persuade the political party in power to put such a proposal to the HoC & get it voted through Parliament.
At present there appears no really effective organisation mustering enough support to achieve that. Are you in an organised pro-rejoin group Hymie or are you just leaving it up to your mate Phil to do the spade work?
But let's face facts. Brexit really, really was all about immigration although Naomi will suddenly pop up and tell me I am wrong.That idiot Boris Johnson that conned all you suckers into thinking you would take back control of your own borders and then go skipping along the sunny uplands wants stuffing with the rough end of a ragmans trumpet.
BTW - Farage formed a political party with the sole aim of leaving, he was voted in over a period of years as an MEP on the same ticket. UKIP got 4 million votes at a GE.
When rejoiners can show that kind of organisation & committment they may have a chance.
Boris (a late joiner to the leave campaign) and JRM had no influence on my vote. I had decided long before the referendum was called.
“Would you prefer me and a few others to be living off the dole,just so you Tory and SNP Brexiteers can justify Brexit?”
Of course not. I would not wish thaton anybody But your company should ask itself whether it would like to remain in an organisation which treats one of its most prominent former members so badly. There is absolutely no reason why individual countries in Europe should not choose to buy what they like, from wherever they like and on what terms they can agree. But they can’t. They’ve sacrificed that right on the altars of the Single Market and the Customs Union. Never mind, your boss opening an office in Spain satisfies all their worries that their integrity may be compromised by outsiders.
I don’t need to justify Brexit. I was asked whether I wanted the UK to leave or remain and I gave my answer. I have made my reason for doing so quite clear on here and that is all the justification I need.
“…well we can all be glad new judge is no longer "irritated" by the EU 🙄 what a typical brexiter response lol”
So essentially, my opinions don’t matter. Fortunately it doesn’t work like that and my views are as valid and pertinent as anybody else’s.
I was asked whether I’d gained any advantages from Brexit. I have made no secret on here that I never expected any and made it quite clear why I wanted the UK to leave. It’s important to me that the UK Parliament (whatever its colour) frames and implements UK law without the need to comply with rules laid down by a supra-national gathering of bureaucrats. It is also important that UK courts are the final arbiters of that law. Neither was true whilst we were a member of the EU. That’s what irritated me and it was manifested by the people imposing contrary conditions. I'm sorry you've been denied the pleasures you enjoy, buut there it is.
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