To The Professional Handwringers And Their Supporters......

[ToraToraTora]

https://thumbsnap.com/1tAgYuZG

I hope you are proud of yourselves.

[ladybirder]

Wow!  Good for him.

[-SharonA-]

Well said.

[andy-hughes]

I am not sure why you think you will find any 'professional handwringers and their supporters' on here - so I am not sure what response you are looking for here.

Maybe you should be directing your ire to any of the individuals name-checked in the link you posted - there are plenty to go at.

[1581960]

Hear hear!

[ToraToraTora]

AH: "I am not sure why you think you will find any 'professional handwringers and their supporters' on here" - I didn't say It would but there are plenty, if the cap fits me old china! This is a discussion forum I thought it would be useful to talk about the our batshit crazy handwringers and what they are doing.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - // This is a discussion forum I thought it would be useful to talk about the our batshit crazy handwringers and what they are doing. //

I shall ignore your thinly veiled reference to the notion that I in any way support the blockage of assylum legislation, that would mean another in a series of long tedious pointless arguments.

So let's stick with the idea of the OP shall we.

Long experience shows that there will not be a 'discussion'.

There will be trumpeting loud and long from the self-righteous brothers and sisters, there will be logical and cogently argued rebuutal from the more reasonable AB'ers, the entire thing will take up days of exchanges, it will get heated, it will get nowhere at all, and then it will stop.

Until another day, when it will all start up again.

If you have nothing better to do with your time, be my guest, but I shall probably not be joining in.

[1581960]

My Hear hear! was in response to SharonA's "Well said."

[naomi24]

Well said him.  Apparently another twenty 'asylum seekers' off the boats and now living in a camp here have been baptised this week.  They can't be sent back to places where Christians aren't too welcome then.   Well done the church.  Always happy to help!

[ToraToraTora]

ok Andy then feel free to leave this thread alone.

[ToraToraTora]

It's the latest "loop hole" apparently you just have to pretend to be a christian and thats ok, you can go down and collect a vat of acid to lob about.

[choux]

This thread is as valid as any in News. Carry on posting, TTT.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Well said him. //

I am sure that anyone with any sense would applaud the sentiments offered by Mr Ferari.

// Apparently another twenty 'asylum seekers' off the boats and now living in a camp here have been baptised this week.  They can't be sent back to places where Christians aren't too welcome then.   Well done the church.  Always happy to help! //

The naivity and pomposity of the church leaders who are engaged in this nonsense would be laughable were it not so serious.

I am sure when the word gets round, conversion will be as compulsory as the fee to the boat loaders, with slightly less validity.

Where on earth is this going to end ...

[JACKSON-REACHER]

Thanks to all those who voted Conservative in 2019 and elected this bunch of useless cretins. They have been in power for 14 years and their recent performance has been abysmally poor. They have failed on immigration, failed on law and order and failed on the economy. The sooner we get someone else in who knows what they are doing, the better.

[andy-hughes]

Jackson - Since that clearly cannot be Labour, do you have anyone else in mind?

[ToraToraTora]

well Labour have opposed every attempt at a fix so they are complicent too.

[JACKSON-REACHER]

Not bothered. Just get rid of the people who have overseen these failed policies for far too long. It would be impossible for anyone to do a worse job of it than the present incumbants have.

[JACKSON-REACHER]

The Conservatives have been in Government for 14 years and recently have had a 80 seat majority, so trying to pass the buck really is not on.

It is opposition within the parliamentary Conservative Party in the Commons and Lords that has hampered any constructive progress. On most things the Party is racked by division which makes getting anything done almost impossible.

 

[youngmafbog]

The Conservatives should have sorted it but they are not Torys but TINO's, just a carry on from Labour/Blair years.

Bloke in the vid is bang on.

And there are plenty of hand wringers on here.

 

[andy-hughes]

Jackson  - If you are going to get into a debate where you condemn one set of individuals for failing to address a specific issue, it's really not helpful to shrug your shoulders and 'not care' who may replace them. 

That's abdication of responsibility. 

If you care enough to be bothered about what's wrong, you owe it to yourself to be bothered about who might be in a position to put it right.

Otherwise, you are simply going to be a pub moaner, and I'm sure that's not a position you would wish to adopt.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - Time to put up or shut up.

If there are 'plenty of handwringers on here, naming two or three should not be too much of a stretch for you.

In your own time ...