Mass Graves Found In Khan Younis

[Untitled]

https://www.channel4.com/news/hundreds-of-bodies-found-in-mass-graves-in-khan-younis

bodies have reportedly been found at Nasser hospital in khan younis, where they had been buried in a shallow grave. most of them appear to have been patients while others were staff. others have been found at smaller sites throughout the city. more than two hundred bodies have at present been exhumed and the number continues to climb.

khan younis was until recently occupied by the IDF.

[Untitled]

the Guardian is reporting that some of the dead were found to have had their hands tied and were also stripped

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/23/un-rights-chief-horrified-by-reports-of-mass-graves-at-two-gaza-hospitals

"

“We feel the need to raise the alarm because clearly there have been multiple bodies discovered,” said Ravina Shamdasani, spokesperson for the UN high commissioner for human rights.

She described bodies “buried deep in the ground and covered with waste”, adding that “among the deceased were allegedly older people, women and wounded”, including some bound and stripped of their clothes.

“Some of them had their hands tied, which of course indicates serious violations of international human rights law and international humanitarian law, and these need to be subjected to further investigations,” she said."

Doctors Without Borders also raised warnings back in January that the israeli army was besieging Nasser hospital and that snipers were targeting medical staff and patients... they accused the israeli army of deliberately making the hospital unable to function

https://www.msf.org/gaza-how-israeli-army-besieged-and-attacked-nasser-hospital

[naomi24]

This is the second such post from you recently and I find it all quite confusing.  Where do the recent occupiers go to enable the Palestinians to make all these shocking discoveries?

[Untitled]

the IDF has recently withdrawn from some parts of gaza naomi which has allowed these discoveries to happen

[naomi24]

That's handy.

[Untitled]

not sure what you mean sorry

[Untitled]

medics from the same hospital also described being tortured by israeli forces there

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68513408

[naomi24]

The stories make no sense.  

[webbo3]

Don't believe everything you read

https://twitter.com/O_Rob1nson/status/1719727918413144371?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1719727918413144371%7Ctwgr%5E7317f7e7ce2fd3d4fb91e13c2c6ef1097fdc9622%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bellingcat.com%2Fnews%2F2023%2F12%2F08%2Fimages-of-syrian-civil-war-take-on-a-second-life-in-gaza-conflict%2F

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/12/08/images-of-syrian-civil-war-take-on-a-second-life-in-gaza-conflict/

 

[Mozz71]

Don't you know Untitled, if Hamas had stayed in bed on Oct 7th, then Israel wouldn't have massacred innocents and dumped their bodies in mass graves (if indeed this has happened)

[Togo]

//then Israel wouldn't have massacred innocents //

When did you stop beating women up? 

[Ellipsis]

Take a look what is verified (some) and what is not verified (others):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68513408

Note that "not verified" does not mean "lies", it just means "not verified". Whereas "verified" means, as much as we normal people can know, true.

[Mozz71]

Strange question Togo, as I'm pretty certain you know nothing about me. If you're assuming that those reportedly in those mass graves are all woman-beaters, you'd have to provide some kind of reasoning. The reports state that many of those buried were female.

[ToraToraTora]

mozz: "Don't you know Untitled, if Hamas had stayed in bed on Oct 7th, then Isreal wouldn't have massacred innocents and dumped their bodies in mass graves (if indeed this has happened)" - by jove I think he's got it!

[Mozz71]

Are you American Tora? You seem to be having difficulty understanding irony.

[ToraToraTora]

No, I'm not American. Irony may have been intended but it was not achieved. It's 100% true, you need to add something so that it can be construed as an ironic statement, as it is it's just a statement of undeniable fact.

[Mozz71]

What is fact is your unbelievable ability to ignore the possibility that the Israeli army may well be responsible for war crimes as despicable as this planet has seen since the 1940s. No matter how bad Hamas' crimes against Israel were, and they were horrible, if these reports are true, Israel cannot use that provocation as an excuse. There is no excuse for some of their actions.

[Togo]

IDF soldiers examined a grave that had been used by Palestinians to bury dead people, hoping to find the remains of Israeli hostages who may have been killed, and then returned the bodies that the IDF had exhumed. The Times of Israel reported earlier this week:
"It said forces searching for Israeli hostages had examined bodies previously buried by Palestinians near Nasser Hospital and had returned the bodies to where they were buried after they were examined.
It has been documented that Palestinians buried their dead at the hospital grounds both before and while Israeli troops operated in the area.
The location of that burial site was geo-located by experts to the same location where Hamas officials claimed to have discovered the new mass grave."

Hmmm. 

[Untitled]

unfortunately the claims of the IDF are not compatible with witness testimonies and with some of the evidence (e.g. bodies being stripped or having their hands tied) so some parties here are obviously not telling the truth... the IDF have moreover been caught lying about their treatment of palestinians before so their word is not really good enough

[naomi24]

And witness testimonies are reliable?  There's something in these reports that simply doesn't gel. 

[Togo]

Meanwhile   ...   Hamas released a propaganda video showing American-Israeli hostage Hersh Goldberg-Polin, proving that he is alive with the hope of pressuring the Israeli government to give up the war as part of a hostage deal.  Goldberg-Polin was maimed in the October 7 terror attack, losing his left hand to a Hamas grenade as he hid among other victims in a bomb shelter near the site of the Supernova music festival in southern Israel. He has become one of the iconic faces of the hostages, 133 of whom remain hostage in Gaza.