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How dare the indigenous population of this country take exception to its invasion and islamification. Funny they don't seem bothered about the muslim gangs shouting "allahu akbar" and rioting.
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untitled: "your question is whether not i agree with the government's immigration policy, which is irrelevant." - nope, these were my questions:
Can you really not see that people have had enough of the invasion and islamification of Britain. Is it "right wing" to not want that?
Are you happy with our path to Britanistan?
Are you happy with the invasion?
"16:55 fine but can you not see why many people are angry? "
yes! people are entitled to feel angry. it is a normal human emotion. but what you do with anger is entirely within your control and it is reasonable to expect that of people.
organise and protest... study activism and learn what works. that is all part of democracy.
but go out and beat up brown people? set fire to hotels with people inside? attack mosques and muslim-owned businesses? try to kill asylum seekers with petrol bombs? that is indefensible no matter how "angry" or "concerned" someone is... and that is what these riots have mostly consisted of. i would go so far as to call it evil. and yes it is reminiscent of what the nazis did in their early years. that is indisputable. and nobody should be making excuses for it... much less praising such people as patriots.
"And yes it is reminiscent of what the nazis did in their early years." - it's nothing like what the nazis did and they wern't being invaded and subjugated into an alien religion. The Nazis regime was the state not the people that have had enough of some of the things that have been allowed to happen to their nation. If you think those things are comparable then you really are clueless.
how do you know these officers wont have those powers? it makes sense in my head, to have a 'flying squad' of police who know what they are doing, and able to be deployed wherever the trouble is.
In any case, all we'll need is a spell of bad weather (going to happen soon as i have a british holiday booked!) and itll all stop
"...study activism and learn what works."
No matter how long you study you will find nothing that works with respect to immigration into this country.
The electorate has been told time and again that it will reduce but it doesn't. The people violently protesting seem to concentrate their efforts on the small boat arrivals. As bad as that is, it is but a small part of the problem. The real problem lies with legal immigration which is entirely within the governments control but it chooses to do nothing about it.
Whatever the problems an ageing population presents they cannot be solved by importing vast numbers (and we are talking of vast numbers) of people into the country. Most people recognise this as they are often on the wrong end of the problems it causes (lack of housing, healthcare, education facilities to name but a few). But politicians seem not to. This is probably because those problems are unlikely to affect many of them.
You asked me when we last discussed this what plans I have for an alternative model to that which involves shipping in vast numbers of extra people. I don't have any. But it doesn't matter because the government (and I use that as a continuum, not necessarily directed at any particular government) does not accept that there is a problem.
I (and many others) do accept there is a problem and it needs to be addressed. The government's strategy is rather akin to encouraging cats to have more kittens because many of them end up in a sack at the bottom of the canal. The problem is not too few cats; it is too few places for them to live a reasonable life. So introducing more cats simply adds to the problem.
So it is with the population; there are more than enough people here in the UK already. The problem is that the economy is not organised sufficienly well so that each of them contributes as much as they can to ensure the country functions properly. The functions that must be properly organised are the essential services needed both for those of working age and those who have retired.
Until Mr Starmer accepts the root cause of people's discontent he will continue to have these problems to solve. Some people are very easily led and see taking to the streets as the only way get their voices heard. They are not going to fanny about "studying activism". Of course that's not the way to do things and I condemn such disorder and violence in just the same was as I condemn the JSO people glueing themselves to anything they can find. Where I differ is with their motives. This country has done more than most to reduce emissions and is on the point of embarking on even more expensive measures which will achieve very little. But it has done sweet FA about curbing excessive immigration and seems unlikely to.
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