An Even Greater Liar Than Boris.

[gulliver1]

Jeremy Hunt now claims to have left the new Labour Govt a £39 billion  surplus and not a £22billion blackhole it inherited from the Tories .Someone is telling Boris like Porkies here and it ain't Labour.

[Ryzen]

Sausages

[Khandro]

How do you know?

[gulliver1]

12.47 How do I know What ?

[naomi24]

Have you checked the books?

[Ryzen]

gulliver will produce a link shortly Khandro.

[gramps85]

Be careful who you call a liar without proof.  Perhaps you may wish to read the following extract from the Independent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/jeremy-hunt-labour-rachel-reeves-birmingham-treasury-b2621174.html

 

At the Conservative Party conference in Birmingham, Mr Hunt said: “You don’t have to take my word for it, I mean just read this week’s Economist where there’s an article saying that (Rachel Reeves) could have actually not a black hole of £22 billion, but a surplus of £39 billion to play with in the budget.

“The Financial Times did a Freedom of Information request to the Treasury to ask where this fictitious £22 billion number came (from), the reply they got back form the Treasury was we can’t give you the workings because we’re not sure they’re acc

 

[gramps85]

Sorry cut off the last bit, now produced below.

because we’re not sure they’re accurate.

[Ryzen]

gramps....gullivers torch batteries packed up before he could read the full report...not entirely his fault!!

[naomi24]

They're not sure the figure is accurate and yet they've spent the past months bleating about a specific figure.  No need to ask who's lying with that one.

[gulliver1]

It's quite obvious when you look at the facts . Almost day one after such a spectacular Win by Labour. They opened the books and found a massive £22billion black hole in economy .Which up until now the Tories didn't deny.But know they have suddely come up with this "Cock and Bull story  about leaving a surplus .What has taken the Tories so long to make this one up

[naomi24]

//Which up until now the Tories didn't deny//

 

I think you'll find they did.

[gulliver1]

Hunt said "You don't have to take my word for it"....I don't !

[gramps85]

Gulliver. The Tory party have always denied there was this deficit, and if you read the article in the Independent you will see that this claim is being supported by other organisations. Even the Treasury cannot confirm Labours claim.

[nicebloke1]

A black hole is a black hole, and that black hole didn't come about in the short time of labour being in thats for sure. It needs filling so tuff. Not sure if it includes Carries wallpaper and Boris's holiday kayka. :0)))

[naomi24]

The black hole is in Labour's calculations.  Thy can't put their money where their mouth is because they haven't shaken enough magic money trees yet.  Still, the October budget when they squeeze everyone and everything until the pips squeak should remedy that.    

[ToraToraTora]

has anyone noticed nicebloke cannot do links, has no avatar, spouts the same unfounded BS as gulliver. They give each other BAs. Is rule 8 being broken here?

[ToraToraTora]

even if it is a black hole and I am certain it's just a bit pof creative accounting, it amounts to the equivalent of 70p in £100. Nothing to see here.

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, "it amounts to the equivalent of 70p in £100." that is meaningless without context so it might help if you gave that context.

[chelle7272]

//They're not sure the figure is accurate and yet they've spent the past months bleating about a specific figure.//

 

Yes the specific figure in the Treasury report in July:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fixing-the-foundations-public-spending-audit-2024-25/fixing-the-foundations-public-spending-audit-2024-25-html

 

Whre does the surplus figure com from?

 

[gulliver1]

If Labour bring the likes of Baroness Mone and Husband .Matt Hancock etc to trial they will recover a few million towards the black hole .Thats if they haven't spent it on a new luxury Yacht and scarpered to the British  Virgin Islands.