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Kaba Was Core Member Of Brixton Drugs Gang.....
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Who'd have thunk it eh? So they drag a copper over the coals for years and acquit in less than 3 hours. That copper did us all a favour, I look forward to the New Years Honour's list.
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"It's a wonder anyone is prepared to be a firearms officer."
12:52 Tue 22nd Oct 2024
AND no mattter how much you squawk - there is a the coroners court ( we know Kaba is dead but as the system might say - so what?) - and THAT is on the balance of probability
What puzzles me is.....
why the judge stayed silent - NJ of course silly !
If you have an general immuity for the police to shoot er people they dont like - currently being demanded
then you transfer the guilt finding process ( trial to you proles) from a trial to .... a man at a desk with a rubber stamp.
and THAT is not public justice
You didn't understand it the first time, so I doubt a second reading will prove any more successful.
Mamalynne ( bless) warned me not to read oyur posts too many times.
and in case it didnt get froo to you - no person accused of murder has been accorded anonymity. The judge accepted this argument
( shoplifting and parking on yellow lines: yes)
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“Kaba was unarmed…”
No he was not. He had under his control a powerful car weighing over two tons. And a simple glance at the footage illustrated he was prepared to use it to cause injury or even death to anybody who got in his way.
“…and no one accused of murder ( for the third time) has been accorded anonymity”
Every person under 18 (for the first and only time) is granted anonymity when accused of murder (or any other criminal offence). If such a blanket privilege can be afforded to young people it can be done likewise for armed police officers who kill somebody in the course of their duty (*but see below). Many young people retain that anonymity even if they are convicted. Some are provided with new identities and lifelong anonymity after release. These should also be considerations for those officers.
“do I agree with secret police justice ?”
This is not about secret police justice. Any lawyer looking at the footage and knowing the lead up to it would have realised that not only was there no realistic chance of a conviction of the officer, but that there was not a cat in Hell’s chance of one. There was only one reason why Sergeant Blake was stood up at the Old Bailey – because not to have done so would have upset the “local community”. That same community knew of Kaba’s background, his lifestyle and his propensity for extreme violence. The jury didn’t but still they acquitted Sergeant Blake. What they saw and heard of the incident alone was enough.
* It was pleasing to learn that firearms officers facing trial over shooting suspects are to be given anonymity unless they are convicted under reforms announced by the Home Secretary today. It was good start. Next she needs to devise ways to ensure that firearms officers do not find themselves in the dock as a matter of routine just to preserve “social cohesion.”
NJ, 'Next she needs to devise ways to ensure that firearms officers do not find themselves in the dock as a matter of routine just to preserve “social cohesion.”'
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"Since 1990, police in England and Wales have shot and killed 83 people, according to Inquest, an independent organisation that monitors and records fatal police shootings."
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Four officers have been prosecuted in the same period.
As less than five per cent of officers have been prosecuted after a fatal shooting, it is hardly accurate to claim they, "find themselves in the dock as a matter of routine" is it?
"Is this serious? - does that mean that if I go out with my muvva in law, I could be charged with possession of an offensive weapon ?"
Depends, Peter.
If you and your Muvva in law are told to stop by the police, refuse to do so, are pursued and eventually boxed in by their cars, and you then use yours to attempt to ram your way out of the roadblock, you may find yourself accused of little more than that.
To say Kaba was "unarmed" because he didn't have a firearm misdescribes the situation. He had the equipment to inflict some very serious injury on those around him and, if he hadn't been stopped, would almost certainly have done so.
That was what happened. It's as clear as day and was not disputed. Anybody caught by the Audi, especially if they were between it and one of the other parked vehicles, would come a very poor second.
This was the basis of Sergeant Blake's defence. He feared for the safety of himself and of those around him. Anybody in that position would. Anybody else would run away to safety. However, he couldn't.
"As less than five per cent of officers have been prosecuted after a fatal shooting, it is hardly accurate to claim they, "find themselves in the dock as a matter of routine" is it?"
No it's not Corby. But feelings (mine in particular) are running unusually high over this matter.
There is only one reason why Sergeant Blake was charged with murder - and that's because it was feared what might kick off in Brixton and other similar areas if he wasn't.
Some legal decisions to prosecute or not are now being taken with "social cohesion" (i.e. preventing riots) uppermost. There was not a chance of Sergeant Blake being convicted by a jury at the Old Bailey drawn at random.
The CPS must have realised this. As well as perhaps misrepresentting the results of their evidential test, the CPS seems to have operated their "public interest" test with only a small minority of the public in mind. The question they really should have asked is "Would the public generally like to see a police firearms officer charged with murder in these circumstances?" Instead they seem to have asked "Would Kaba's familiy, friends and "business associates in and around Brixton" be happy to see us take no action against Sergeant Blake? And what might happen on the streets iftthat is our decision?"
The CPS and their political masters are treading a very dangerous path.
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