The Uk Pm Said He Is Looking Forward To Working With The New President.

[10ClarionSt]

Is that a slight mis-quote? Didn't Starmer mean working "for" the President, not with him?

[youngmafbog]

Starmer wont get near The Donald without going through Nigel.

In wonder if Lammy will have a job by the end of the day?

[naomi24]

Bet he isn't.

[ToraToraTora]

Well last week he was sending minions to help out Harris. Not a good starting point with the new president.

[maggiebee]

Two numpties together oh joy!

[Khandro]

I won't be a walk in the park for the UK, with a Foreign Secretary who previously branded Trump a “neo-Nazi sympathizing sociopath a dangerous clown and a racist KKK and Nazi sympathizer” — and once vowed to oppose a visit to the U.K. by the then-president.

He should be removed from office, pronto. 

[New Judge]

"I won't be a walk in the park for the UK, with a Foreign Secretary who previously branded Trump a “neo-Nazi sympathizing sociopath a dangerous clown and a racist KKK and Nazi sympathizer” "

Indeed not. It's one thing some of our fellow ABers calling Mr Trump and his supporters racists and nazis. It is quite another for His Majesty's Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs to do so. It's a pity Dennis Skinner is no longer an MP. The Labour government may have been better off with the "Beast of Bolsover" as the Foreign Secretary.

Mr Lammy's remarks, and the Labour Party's idiocy in sending 100 people to the US to "help out" with the Kamala campaign, illustrates how politically and diplomatically naive, or more accurately, ignorant they are.

No UK government should try to influence the outcome of elections abroad and nor should they throw insults at a presidential candidate, especially in a place with so much influence as the USA. But Mr Lammy and his fellow Labour members do not have the ability to see beyond their ideology.

If Mr Lammy is to survive he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut unless called upon to open it. He should have taken notice of this adage (which is, dubiously, attributed to one of Mr Trump's predecessors):

" 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

[max137]

Well put NJ.

[naomi24]

//If Mr Lammy is to survive he needs to learn to keep his mouth shut//

 

Too late for that.  Foolish man.  It seems the whole lot of them have been promoted way out of their league.  

[Old_Geezer]

No experience see.

They'd be well advised to try to find representatives who are on record for praising or supporting the Republican Party's stance, and Trump in particular. Surely some must exist ?

[Khandro]

NJ; It's not only Lammy;

Keir Starmer, Prime Minister, 19 June 2018: ‘Humanity and dignity. Two words not understood by President Trump.’

Angela Rayner, Deputy Prime Minister and Levelling Up Secretary, 9 November 2020: Rayner applauded ‘all the activists and organisers across the USA who worked day and night [and] fought Trump’s voter suppression’.

Wes Streeting, Health Secretary, 26 July 2017: ‘Trump is such an odious, sad, little man. Imagine being proud to have that as your president.’

David Lammy, Foreign Secretary, 26 September 2017: [Trump] is a racist KKK and Nazi sympathiser.’

Ed Miliband, Energy Security and Net Zero Secretary, 10 November 2016: ‘The idea that we have shared values with a racist, misogynistic self-confessed groper beggars belief.’  

Rachel Reeves, Chancellor, 20 June 2018: ‘The Prime Minister should speak for Britain at #PMQs today and condemn the barbaric forced removed of young children from their parents by Trump’s administration. Heartbreaking to see from a once great democracy.’

Yvette Cooper, Home Secretary, 13 July 2018: ‘Trump’s appalling behaviour’… ‘Watching Trump in recent days has been truly, truly chilling.’

Pat McFadden, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, 6 January 2021: About the Capitol Hill riots: ‘Terrible and distressing scenes from Washington DC.  The culmination of the Trump presidency.’ 

Shabana Mahmood, Justice Secretary, 30 January 2017: ‘Boris Johnson should be clear that #Trump has enacted a #MuslimBan.’

Jonathan Reynolds, Business Secretary, 12 August 2016: ‘We can’t just make stuff up to make ourselves feel better. That’s Trump-esque.’

Liz Kendall, Work and Pensions Secretary, 17 February 2017: ‘Trump & Putin don’t want “real” news, they want silence.’

Louise Haigh, Transport Secretary, 31 January 2017: ‘Donald Trump’s policy is wrong on a basic moral level. Govt should condemn in the strongest terms.’

Peter Kyle, Science and Tech Secretary, 21 October 2017: ‘People like Trump only divide, never unite, even in opposition.’

Hilary Benn, Northern Ireland Secretary, 30 November 2017: ‘As well as deliberately sowing division, Donald Trump demeans the office of President of the United States.’

Ian Murray, Scotland Secretary, 30 November 2017: ‘I asked the Home Secretary if President Donald Trump’s promotion of far-right, extremist propaganda on Twitter constitutes a hate crime.’

Lisa Nandy, Culture Secretary, 13 July 2018: ‘Welcome Donald Trump, human rights nightmare. Good to see Amnesty UK leading the protest #TrumpVisitUK.’

 

[Khandro]

continues :

Darren Jones, Chief Secretary to the Treasury: 9 November 2016: ‘Regardless of outcome, the US election being this close w/ someone as bad as Trump means there’s a longer term problem for the centre left’. 6 June 2022: ‘Maybe Donald Trump, Scott Morrison and Boris Johnson can get together for golf and reminisce about the failures of divisive right wing populism.’

Jo Stevens, Wales Secretary: 29 March 2020: ‘We must all call out anyone copying Trump’s cesspit of racism’. 13 October 2019: ‘Voter suppression. Made by Trump & brought to you by @BorisJohnson.’ 25 September 2019: ‘This Tory Cabinet is well and truly infected by Trump and his far right toxicity.’

Steve Reed, Rural Affairs Secretary: 8 December 2015: ‘Donald Trump – not just a clown but a dangerous clown.’ 9 November 2016: ‘President Trump, a terrifying day for the world and for everyone who values democracy and freedom.’ 29 November 2017: ’Trump retweets far-right anti-Muslim hate messages, what a repulsive slimeball.’ 18 July 2019: ‘Trump is a disgrace to his country and a threat to democratic values everywhere, it’s terrifying to see the Conservative Party marching the UK to the same dark destination.’

Anneliese Dodds, Women and Equalities Minister, 23 April 2019: Signed a text that said the British parliament ‘deplores the record of US President Donald Trump, including his misogynism [sic], racism and xenophobia’ as well as his ‘sharing of online content related to a far-right extremist organisation in the UK.’ 4 June 2019: Dodds tweeted: ‘Thanks to BBC Oxford for having me on earlier to discuss Trump’s state visit. Unacceptable red carpet rolled out for someone who locked up Mexican children, ‘grabbed’ women & instituted racist policies.’

 My Grandmother used to say to me, 'Never insult people when you're on the way up; you'll never know what you need when you're on the way down. 😄 

 

[fender62]

what we need is another election, labour were all for kamala and her word salad politics of woke, the tide is turning on liberal labour complacency, it's happening in parts of europe, kier should start with a cabinet reshuffle, better still shuffle off and let reform run things, i think farage would get a good trade agreement to boot.

[Canary42]

My word - coming up with 6- and 7-year old quotes shows just how sore Tory supporters still are at their overwhelmng rejection by the electorate.  Desperados.

[Khandro]

In politics, 6- and 7-year old quotes don't go away. Much older quotes are used every day.

[youngmafbog]

// just how sore Tory supporters still are at their overwhelmng rejection by the electorate.  //

Just what has that got to do with Mr Trumps resounding victory?

Labour have over the years insulted him and are now going to pay a heavy price, or we may do because of their big gobs.

 

[naomi24]

Canary, you can hardly blame Conservative voters for Labour's stupidity.  They should have more sense but that's about as much in evidence their diplomacy. 

[tommy39]

lammy made another boo,boo.how to get ahead in politic's,call the future president, not nice names

[New Judge]

"...shows just how sore Tory supporters still are at their overwhelmng rejection by the electorate."

This has nothing to do with our General Election. That's done and dusted.

What this is about is a catalogue of disparaging remarks and insults thrown by members of the party now in government at the new POTUS. 

It may not have occurred to them at the time they were made (many of them when he was serving his first term of office)  that they may one day be in government and I imagine it occurred even less to them that may coincide with his second term.

But that's what happens when you have those with juvenille attitudes who cannot see beyond their ideology and dogma, jockeying for positions at the top table. 

I hope (for the sake of the UK, not its current government) that Mr Trump has a forgiving nature.

[Pegasus16]

"...coming up with 6- and 7-year old quotes shows just how sore Tory supporters still are at their overwhelmng rejection by the electorate."

 

Imagine quotes and sulkings from 8 years + then from sore Remain supporters having lost!

[Khandro]

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