I am Fed up

[yassa]

With all the Muslims that come on here condemning the terrorists and telling us how they are so appreciative the fact we take them in and look after them, there is no where to post anything as the Muslims are on here telling us not to worry, it's all a conspiracy and that really they all want to fit in with British society..
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. ''''SARCASM''''', just in case you are that stupid... No all i hear is half educated white middle class lefties telling us we are wrong and they are great people, hogwash.... Lets see your true colours Islam,,, tell us you want to live in peace and you don't think we are kaffurs and should all be beheaded. There must be one of you there that could assure us that the Islamic community condemns the terrorists. There has to be one of you who comes here. Speak and reassure us all.....
Are you out there?

[whiffey]

Islam is growing in Britain, nothing else is.

I was in a Christian bookshop last Saturday and browsed a book by a leading Christian writer, in which he wrote that Islam will eventually take over the world. I agree with him. I don't like it, but that is the way it will be, Europe first (and Britain foremost in Europe).

Like global warming, it is too far gone to reverse.

[SarCaustic]

I'm sorry you feel that way Yassa.

I had originally intended to highlight the errors in your argument, but would you believe an evil muslim hell bent on word domination such as I? I thought not.

Instead I am going to pray that your sorry misguided soul finds the truth.

[Theland]

http://americancongressfortruth.com/

Brigitte Gabriel was born in Lebanon, and is an authority on Islamic attitudes to the west.

http://www.danielpipes.org/

As is Daniel Pipes. Both sites worth a look.

Yes, we seem to be burying our heads in the sand.

But! Wait a minute! Let's not get carried away from the fact that the majority of British muslims want only what we want, to live in peace, and build a better world for themselves and their children. It is far too easy to get swept along on a tide of racism when cool appraisal of the situation is what is called for.

Melanie Philips's book, "Londonistan," gives the facts, and doesn't sling mud.

[whiffey]

SarCaustic, please highlight the errors in the question. There are some unenlightened among us who wonder about the veiling and subjugation of women, public beheadings on clean sheets, and hanging teenagers from cranes. Please reassure us.

[Hammer Head]

Well done Theland. It took just 3 posts before the word Racism reared its ugly head. You have obviously not read the question properly. Yassa merely asks if any muslim on here will openly condemn terrorism. As 99.9% of terrorism in this and other countries is the work of muslims then i consider that a fair question.

I suspect that you are the type who looks for perceived racism in everything you encounter. Well, look elsewhere because it aint here.

[Theland]

Hammer Head - I appear to be as paranoid as most these days, and offer my non racist credentials along with my otherwise, hopefully, objective comments.
I was conscious of the fact that if I said anything derogative against Islam, the "race card" would be played.

[Marvelman]

Some weeks ago on Talk Sport a woman editor of a Birmingham muslem newspaper was asked by a caller ,would Brittons living in Iran be able to do the things that the muslems get away with here, no was her reply, but it is the duty of every muslem in this country to change it into a muslem country. i wonder why she gets away with saying things like that.

[Theland]

Marvelman - She said it, because she believes it, because that is what the Koran teaches.

[THECORBYLOON]

Theland do you condemn the Christian Missionaries who converted the native inhabitants of countries in what was the British Empire?

[Theland]

TheCorbyloon - Yes, I condemn them if they marched in and forced people to convert.
The job of the missionary is to tell people the Good News of Jesus christ, answer their questions, and leave them to make up their own minds. That is why the the Crusades and Inquisition were, "Christian" in name only, but were so, so wrong and evil.

[THECORBYLOON]

I can't recall any reports of Christians in this country being forced to convert to Islam so what is the difference?

[Theland]

THECORBYLOON - Christians in muslim countries are terribly persecuted. If the muslims became the majority here, then there could be forced conversions.

[THECORBYLOON]

I was meaning folk in this country being forced to convert. Some folk on here are convinced this country will become an Islamic state within a generation but if they are that concerned ,what are they themsels doing about it?

Are you, yassa, a regular church-goer? Do you support yir local church?

I can't mind on someone here saying, "Och that's me away for a wee while, just off to church!" Yet to see the way folk write, you'd think they were hardly ever out the place wi their strongly held Christian beliefs!

[Theland]

Whether or not folk go to church, the fact remains we live in a country that though secular, has a Judeo/Christian heritage that is reflected in our institutions and way of life. Most folk i presume would want to protect that.
I don't think there would ber an islamic revolution, but bit by bit they make inroads into our way of life, always complaining about discrimination, and demanding more accommodation to counter it. Hence this culture of political correctness.
What if one day they demanded we shut up shop on Fridays, their holy day?

[THECORBYLOON]

It seems to me that the problem is that Muslims practise their faith, pray five times a day, go to Mosque and have strong beliefs while a lot of Christians on here don't know the difference between a cross and a crucifix. As for the Christian heritage, would that be the one that thinks Easter is a time for eating eggs, Christmas is a time for getting into debt and church is a future bingo hall?

[Theland]

I did say that I recognise we are a secular society.
That still doesn't negate our Judeo/Christian roots.

[Ctrak]

"Most folk I presume would want to protect that."

Think again! I'm all for Christmas/Hanukkah/Ramadan/Divali (sod it, say the third week in December) becoming a secular holiday and the rest of it ********* off...well, somewhere else.

[Theland]

Ctrak - Yes, a big melting pot! Until somebody one day says no, and forces the issue. Muslims perhaps?

[Ctrak]

And Christianity has never, ever forced an issue anywhere in the world of course.