Do you want a Mosque to be London's biggest landmark?

[anotheoldgit]

The plan is for the mosque to be so big that people flying in from all over the world for the 2012 Olympics will it see it as the biggest landmark in London.

Take a second to cast your vote in the Evening Standard online poll
To determine public opinion about whether a mega mosque should be Built for the Olympics.

The vote so far is 56 % in favour. It looks like the Muslim
Community is casting its vote in droves.

After voting, forward this to as many people as
You can. Here's the link:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/poll/...ote+now/ poll.do

[Dom Tuk]

10-4 in favour i make it......

[naomi24]

Supernick - I believe in universal tolerance and respect for other cultures - but unfortunately many in the muslim community here don't seem to agree.

[Pippa68]

It doesn't bother me in the slightest.

[Supernick]

So the small minority of muslims that are intolerant (and looking at this site, it seems that there are a similar amount of intolerant people in all cultures), should cloud your vision of a whole community? Are you saying that we should refuse the building of this mosque based on the fact that there is an intolerant minority?

[Little Willy]

As long as it is paid for out of private investment and this government does'nt throw taxpayers money at it, i can't see how i can object. Even better that its in London as they seem to get everything else.

[sp1814]

It's it obvious that we're living in a largely secular society where 'Christians' have given up on their faith to worship at the altar of Big Brother, Christian Louboutin and Take That?

We simply cannot complain when Muslims rightly and proudly proclaim their faith by building mosques. How about a little less hypocracy.

What does it mean to be a 'Christian society' when the vast majority, the vast, vast, vast majority of people in this country are unable to name their local vicar?

Why is it that Catholics, Jews, Hindus and Muslims regularly attend their respective churches, synogogues etc each week and we don't?

How come at regligious festivals, they go to worship and we go to Ikea?

We cannot complain.

We as a 'Christian country' are spiritually bankrupt.

[stokeace]

marvelman surely thats an infringement of the childrens right to celebrate xmas and sing christian hymns id complain to the highest authority and get the children out of the school asap mate.......

[stokeace]

sp1814 i agree that there are many people who dont attend church but on the other hand there are also many many people who do attend on a regular basis its just that in the christian faith we are not required to attend 3 times a day and fast and pray in the middle of the day.by the view of the posts on here people will not be satisfied until the sound of bells ringing on a sunday morning across our land is replaced by the sound of a muslim wailing for his muslim community to attend the local mosques.KEEP OUR BRITISH IDENTITY.

[sp1814]

You refer to keeping the British Identity.

That's exactly my point. It didn't take Muslims or any other faith to mess up any national identity. Church attendances have been falling since the late 70s.

Absolutely nothing to do with any other religion. More to do with the Brits becoming more secular, and Sunday openings, and Ikea and DIY and the breakdown of family values.

Just because other faiths (Jews, Catholics, Hindus, Bhuddists) have kept it together, it's no reason to blame them for our failings.

And that's what it is our failings.

No-one else's fault.

Please define 'British Identity'.

How would you define that?

[NJOK]

Naomi, you've gone and got yourself confused, my love.

Thanks to anotheoldgit, it appears.

The mosque has nothing to do with the London Olympics, other than the fact that both are in London and will probably be finished at around the same time. It's privately funded and has no connection whatsoever with the Olympic bid.

It will be seen by people flying into London. Some of whom will also probably visit the London Dungeons. Perhaps we should close them as well?? Otherwise what will people think of us??

Crikey.

[Supernick]

Most people seem to equate 'British Identity' with anything before 1945. Too many people will shout from the rooftops if a mosque is built because we're supposedly tossing our identity down the drain, but never stop to think about the Anmericanisation of much of our culture.
Personally, I believe that culture and identity are constantly evolving things. I have respect and a great deal of warmth for our history, but I don't want to fix our identity at an imaginary point in time 'back in the day' when everything was perfect.

[NJOK]

Supernick, I agree.

Let's not forget also that before about 1950 British people ate the blandest food in the world and wore the drabbest clothes.

It wasn't just the telly that was black and white.

Thank god for the mix of cultures we've now got.

[jno]

the millennium dome is in use mankymonky - it's having exhibition halls and arenas built in it. There'll be a big Tutankhamun exhibition there at the end of the year (from, OMG, a Muslim country).

[Pippa68]

Is the school maintained? if so, it should have a period of 'collective worship' eg half an hour assembly per day at some point in the school timetable.

Children of non-Chrstian faith may attend, but written notice of non-attendance due to other religious beliefs must be submitted. If the school is not compliant then they must be reported to the local authority.

My children attend a non-church school and attend assembly every day. I have yet to witness a school banning Christmas activities.

[Gevs1966]

British Identity defined.

Being British is about driving a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then grabbing an Indian curry or, a Turkish kebab on the way back to your home where you sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese TV.

And the most British thing of all? Suspicion of all things foreign!

[Pippa68]

Nice one, Gevs ~ and long may it continue..apart from the last one ;o)

[sp1814]

Good point on the Americanisation of Britain.

Never thought about it this way, but have you noticed that no matter what city you go to, everything looks the same?

High Streets are now MacDonalds, French Connection, Next, Starbucks etc etc...

Isn't that a greater threat to national identity than the (privately funded) build of a new mosque?

Do the people who complain about the destruction of traditional British identity boycott Tescos, Sainsburys, Asda and the other multinational companies who have systematically destroyed the high street?

Seriously, do you?

[suffragette]

I watched a programme recently in which Muslim women were refused entry to certain mosques on the grounds there wasn't enough room for them. A large mosque in East London will certainly put paid to such reactionary thinking by some of the more mysogynist men in the Muslim community. As someone has previously mentioned, mosques are attractive buildings and it will certainly make a change from yet another empty office block development. I think its an OK idea.

[NJOK]

Well this question has backfired a bit hasn't it, anotheoldgit?

[Dom Tuk]

i make it 28-9 in favour. AOG are you still reading this thread...or have you given up.