Immigrants please explain

[lovejoy]

It took me 25 years of hard work to pay for my house and in the last few months there are africans and pakistanis living in my road that have paid nothing for their �200,000 houses, they got them as a free gift as well as lifelong welfare payments and free healthcare to which they have contributed sweet **** all

So please explain to me why is my 50 years of pension money being spent on these people?

[Whickerman]

If it's true, it's unfair.

But that's the legacy of taking control of half the world and making them subjects of the crown.

[MrBen5]

Hmmm, your �200,000 pond houses in that road wont be that for long then.
Next year they will only be worth �20, 000, and even worse is, one of these neighbours will be knocking on your door asking if you will take �10k cash...

[Fink-Knottle]

You can take a joke can't you?

[black bunny]

Lovejoy - a couple of questions for you

1. Do you really believe these people were "given" these houses as a "free gift"? Or perhaps they are renting them (albeit receiving Housing Benefit to cover the rent) and when they move on, these houses will be rented out to someone else?

2. Your pension money (tax and NI) as well as mine and everyone elses pays for todays benefit and pension claimants, it doesn't go into a pot with your name on to get it when youare pension age. If you were unfortunate to become ill or unemployed, you would get the appropriate benefits. And you will still receive your pension at pension age.

My point is that your taxes/NI help other people, whatever their race.

[ruby27]

It is an evil conspiracy. Most of the public figures in politics and in commerce in this country are not white British. They are in fact Pakistanis and Africans. So for the last goodness only knows how many years they have been secretly controlling the various governments and laws that this country have passed. So this has enabled legislation to be passed that has secured the well being of Pakistanis and Africans all at the cost of the minority, that is the white British working class.

The situation is worse than anyone could have foreseen. The only way left to truly determine if someone is white British is to throw pepper in their face. It takes too many facial muscles to sneeze and maintain this diabolical pretence.

Sorry, shouldn't have written all this boring rubbish. I just couldnt resist seeing my username in a thread.

[Whickerman]

lmao at ruby - nice one

[black bunny]

ruby27 what are you on!!!

[kwicky]

Like the idiots who released that foot and mouth virus into the countryside there are similar cretins in power who delight in making Britain the world's centre for disaffected refugees.

[jake-the-peg]

So lovejoy (ironic name - nice choice)

Are you OK with British people getting free handouts straight out of school having contributed nothing?

If not why didn't you rant about everyone geting these wonderful benefits?

If you are OK with that why do they deserve something that "africans and pakistanis" do not?

[jake-the-peg]

Missed your post kwicky-

You'll be interested in this a map of countries of the world coloured by the amount of immigration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Countries_b y_immigrant_population.svg

[sp1814]

lovejoy

How were you able to access the council records to establish the financial records of your neighbours?

Are any of them mates of yours? I mean, have you sat down with them and chatted about how long theyve lived in the country?

Say if they've moved from another area, as opposed from overseas?


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[sp1814]

Oh you asked why your taxes were going to 'these people'....well, that characterises immigrants as workshy.

Try to stop talking rubbish.

Remember that immigrants and their descendents also pay taxes and NI which contribute to the national purse.

To indicate otherwise is stupid.

[stokemaveric]

welcome to the britain of today.we should close our borders NOW before long we will be a minoroty in our own country.we have done our bit to help asylum seekers from all over the world and our system has been used and ABUSED.its time to look after our own for a change.asylum seekers and immigrants come here and qualify for everything that someone who has contributed all their working lives to.where is the fairness in that?the only solution is to stop the influx of asylum seekers now,

[sp1814]

If we do that then it's only fair to stop any benefits going to those who've never worked...and the long term unemplyed.

Oh, and to become a minority in the UK, well in about 55 years, the immigrant population has grown to 6%...if I've got my figures right, I think it'll be another 450-ish years before white Anglo Saxons are in the minority...and frankly - who cares? Britons are Britons no matter where their families originated from.

[stokemaveric]

now that is the point the long term BRITISH unemployed should get benefits because it is their right as BRITISH citizens to get our support not just to waltz into the uk and get it for nothing.its the BRITISH welfare state which was set up to help BRITISH citizens not a worldwide fund to be exploited by all and sundry.ok the system is abused by british people and it is a problem which needs to be addressed.id like to know where you get a 6% growth in immigration from its grown 100% in the midlands alone.

[alijangra]

Stop talking rot. Please explain how exactly you know all these 'facts' about your neighbours!!

[sp1814]

stokemaveric

Are you really unsure of how percentages work?

There are are areas of the country which have a large immigrant population. There are many, many, many, many more which have almost no immigrants.

If you look at the country as a whole, the figure is about 6%.

Can I as a child of immigrants also ring-fence my tax and NI contributions so that lazy, smackhead, baby-spouting chavs don't get any of my money?

It doesn't work like that. It shouldn't work like that.

[stokemaveric]

i would rather have british citizens getting MY hard earned contributions than some asylum seekers who could turn out to be suicide bombers.....and yes i do know how percentages work.ALL of the uk is affected by immigration not just selected parts.

[sp1814]

stokemaveric

So if you understand percentages, were you only joking when you challenged the figure of 6%?

But you're correct - the whole country is affected by immigrants - and overwhelmingly it's very positive.

Oh, and it's a really filthy thing to align suicide bombers to asylum seekers.

It's an utterly rotten thing to do to tar asylum seekers with that brush.

Just disgraceful.

[jno]

your 50 years of pension savings have long since been spent; they didn't just put them under the mattress for you to retrieve later. But there are no longer as many people contributing to the fund for you to draw the money from - as you know, families are half the size they were 50 years ago. So you need immigrants to replace all those lost Britons, to work and fund your retirement.