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Prison officers strike
Do you agree with the prison officer strike today?
I never knew they were allowed to strike.
Apparently, there are hundreds of human rights protesters no their way to parliament to hold a protest...
I never knew they were allowed to strike.
Apparently, there are hundreds of human rights protesters no their way to parliament to hold a protest...
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Hmmm, ChinaDoll. Sado post makes a very good read.
If they have agreed in their contract that they will not strike, then how do they get away with striking?
Surely its a breach of contract.
I understand they may not be happy with their terms but there are other ways to put their point across.
For one, they could work to 'whistles and bells'.
I suppose that if people want to strike then there is nothing you can do then, but i would at least not pay them for it.
Any holiday bonuses or incentive pay would be revoked.
My original point is that people in certain jobs shouldnt be allowed to strike. It is immoral.
Just out of curiosity ChinaDoll/Good(double standards)Soullette), do you think the police or army should be able to strike?
(Please answer truthfully, a simple yes or no will be suffiicient)
If they have agreed in their contract that they will not strike, then how do they get away with striking?
Surely its a breach of contract.
I understand they may not be happy with their terms but there are other ways to put their point across.
For one, they could work to 'whistles and bells'.
I suppose that if people want to strike then there is nothing you can do then, but i would at least not pay them for it.
Any holiday bonuses or incentive pay would be revoked.
My original point is that people in certain jobs shouldnt be allowed to strike. It is immoral.
Just out of curiosity ChinaDoll/Good(double standards)Soullette), do you think the police or army should be able to strike?
(Please answer truthfully, a simple yes or no will be suffiicient)
Re-read Sado's post. They agreed not to strike as part of a contract that the goverment is breaking. Since the goverment is breaking the contract then why should they keep up their side of the bargain?
For the kazillionth time... you do not 'get away with' or 'allow' a strike. For all the reasons I've already stated. If you could do that they wouldn't be very bl00dy effective would they now?!
'Immoral'? No, it's not. It just might be the only way the general public realises the conditions these people work in and for very little pay. Did you know that some nurses are paid less than tube drivers? These are people that can hold your life in their hands and the lives of your family and yet they can't even afford a place to live if they work in particularly affluent areas of the country. Does that seem right to you? (A simple yes or no will be fine).
As I've said to you before. People working in the public sector, particularly the emergency services are always made to be the villains if they mention the 'S' word. Also, people working in those industries use strike as the last possible resort because of the risk it carries.
Should the police and army be able to strike. You've heard my arguments. They haven't changed. That being the case I think even you should be able to work out my answer.
Forgive me but I'm leaving this thread now as banging my head against an actual concrete wall would be less painful. Have a good day.
For the kazillionth time... you do not 'get away with' or 'allow' a strike. For all the reasons I've already stated. If you could do that they wouldn't be very bl00dy effective would they now?!
'Immoral'? No, it's not. It just might be the only way the general public realises the conditions these people work in and for very little pay. Did you know that some nurses are paid less than tube drivers? These are people that can hold your life in their hands and the lives of your family and yet they can't even afford a place to live if they work in particularly affluent areas of the country. Does that seem right to you? (A simple yes or no will be fine).
As I've said to you before. People working in the public sector, particularly the emergency services are always made to be the villains if they mention the 'S' word. Also, people working in those industries use strike as the last possible resort because of the risk it carries.
Should the police and army be able to strike. You've heard my arguments. They haven't changed. That being the case I think even you should be able to work out my answer.
Forgive me but I'm leaving this thread now as banging my head against an actual concrete wall would be less painful. Have a good day.
I haven't even commented on the strike and I still get abuse.
I think its pretty dangerous for staff in prison to strike and I don't know the ins and outs of it. I think jobs like being in the army, a police officer, a fireman, a nurse etc etc generally entail more than just being after the money. I find it hard to answer yes or no, my gut instincts say no, as by undertaking these roles you are responsible for people's safety and I would have thought that money wouldn't really be the reason you entered the job. However, by having a zero striking policy, or making it illegal like they did with the prison officers (that is right, isn't it?) leaves staff open to, well, having the p1ss taken out of them by their employers. I think the prison staff must be pretty desperate to have taken these actions and I would think they deserve to paid well for keeping our criminals under lock and key, its not a job I would want to do.
My mum's a midwife and I know she would never strike, just as my uncle who is a copper wouldn't either. I think prison officers have a similar duty of moral responsibility and I am shocked with the strike.
I think its pretty dangerous for staff in prison to strike and I don't know the ins and outs of it. I think jobs like being in the army, a police officer, a fireman, a nurse etc etc generally entail more than just being after the money. I find it hard to answer yes or no, my gut instincts say no, as by undertaking these roles you are responsible for people's safety and I would have thought that money wouldn't really be the reason you entered the job. However, by having a zero striking policy, or making it illegal like they did with the prison officers (that is right, isn't it?) leaves staff open to, well, having the p1ss taken out of them by their employers. I think the prison staff must be pretty desperate to have taken these actions and I would think they deserve to paid well for keeping our criminals under lock and key, its not a job I would want to do.
My mum's a midwife and I know she would never strike, just as my uncle who is a copper wouldn't either. I think prison officers have a similar duty of moral responsibility and I am shocked with the strike.
Mr Ben
You state that the prison wardens, police, army, nurses etc should be barred from striking. Please tell me how these services should obtain the pay rise recommended instead of the below inflation rate rise they have had imposed.
Obviously their employers won't negotiate with them.
So come on give me the benefit of your wisdom
You state that the prison wardens, police, army, nurses etc should be barred from striking. Please tell me how these services should obtain the pay rise recommended instead of the below inflation rate rise they have had imposed.
Obviously their employers won't negotiate with them.
So come on give me the benefit of your wisdom
I only wished that the Prison Officers (or their union) had not backed down. The Goverment had threatened them return to work or face dire consequences. They should have held fast and asked the Goverment what these so called dire consequences were.
If the politicians went out on strike for better pay, this would be no threat at all because it would be better without them anyway, it is the civil sevants that run the country. But then I don't think this scenario would ever become a reality since they award their own and their families pay rises themselves, so everone is happy with the rise
What I did observe during the video footage of the warders short walk-out was their general image. These guys are built for the job, male and female alike. Oh for a police force with such caracteristics as these guys, instead of what generally pass as police officers today, insignificant, baby faced 5 foot nothing individuals, we occasionally see pass us by on the streets. Note I did say occasionally.
If the politicians went out on strike for better pay, this would be no threat at all because it would be better without them anyway, it is the civil sevants that run the country. But then I don't think this scenario would ever become a reality since they award their own and their families pay rises themselves, so everone is happy with the rise
What I did observe during the video footage of the warders short walk-out was their general image. These guys are built for the job, male and female alike. Oh for a police force with such caracteristics as these guys, instead of what generally pass as police officers today, insignificant, baby faced 5 foot nothing individuals, we occasionally see pass us by on the streets. Note I did say occasionally.
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