This is really bad

[wendilla]

Just heard on news 4 year old boy been stabbed in liverpool and sister seriously ill. What on earth is the world coming to.?

[1rovert]

Not the world, Britain. Now its punish the victims, and reward the criminals. Remember how they treated the the murderers of the little Bowger boy, they got the lightest of sentences. They should have been executed for what they did to him. I don't accept that they were children, they knew what they were doing, AND enjoyed it.

[brachiopod]

Bowger boy? I must admit, I don't know that case.

Still, I'm always open to hearing the informed opinions of those so obviously in possession of all the facts......

[B00]

Heyyyy Brach, good to see you :-)

Here's the story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/70 09404.stm

[GetOverIt]

Erm..... This seems to be a stabbing in North Yorkshire, not Liverpool.

[wendilla]

Sorry yes I thought I had typed wrong after I posted it. Yes 1 rovert you are right and hearing news this morning father has been arrested.

[ruby27]

BBC and the Guardian - do not report who it was other than two men have been arrested.

It is a dreadful incident. Whilst it is relatively infrequent, children have always been victims of violence in this country.

[wendilla]

sorry Ruby 27 but it did say at the end one of the men arrested is believed to be the father.

[ruby27]

Well if does turn out to be the father, that would fit statistically wouldn't it. Your are more likely to be harmed by someone known to you than a total stranger.

In the Guardian (if true), the man went into the local pub had a drink and confessed to what he had done!

No update on the condition of the girl as yet. Fingers crossed and all that. Its impossible to imagine what the mother is experiencing, the loss of one child and the possibility of a second.

[Ethel]

The first answer refers to James Bulger, I assume.

[Ethel]

It is the father that has done this.

Very sad.

[stokemaveric]

hang him............end of story.

[Goodsoulette]

What on earth was the other man doing?

[daffy654]

The children have been named now.They are Ryan Hawkins and Donna Hawkins,their father Chris Hawkins has been arrested along with another man as yet un-named.

http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documen tid=6210450

Very,very sad state of affairs.

[Louisa 69]

That is beyond belief. It makes me feel sick. I strongly believe that child murderers should be given the death penalty. What chance did that 4 year old have against a grown man. Poor wee soul, i just pray that the sister pulls through,but she'll never be the same again. Why doesn't our bl**dy government stand up and take notice ?

[anotheoldgit]

Usual scenario these days I'm afraid, although it doesn't always end in death, especially of children, thank goodness.

Couple split up, husband forced to move from the family home, without his kids, another man moves in with wife, husband only allowed limited access to his kids, husband goes off his rocker.

[donegal]

who ever did it will get life in jail but will be out in 10 years after spending time in a nice cell watching tv and playing the playstation.

[lotdot]

AOG
I feel compelled to respond. Do you specialise in sweeping statements?

Husband forced to leave, another man moves in and husband goes off his rocker following his limited contact with this children. Is this true of all family breakups - can you provide the stats. Or is this just the case for this family and in which case how come you have so much breaking news?

Oh and Lousia - I imagine most of the MP' s would have picked this up on the news, what action has the government failed to do?

[jiggy-gb]

Perhaps if AOG's scenario is correct there is a very valid reason for limited access, like the father is a violent ba$tard capable of stabbing his 4 year old son to death.
Sometimes the courts do get it right, sometimes they get it wrong, but restricted access is no excuse for violence in any form and should never be offered as such an excuse either.

This man is scum, as is his accomplice. None of us need to know them to know this, nor do we need to know the circumstances, their actions have spoken for them.

[Goodsoulette]

I just don't get it. How could anyone justify the actions by using the limited access card? Usual scenario my arse, the man was nuts, break ups majoratively happen murder free and what was another man doing there? 2 men plan to kill one man's children? No matter who's child was in the room I would put myself between them and a knife, I would die to protect any child.

Its not exclusive to Britain by the way. I read only recently in France a man murdered all four of his children whilst he had them for the weekend.

[anotheoldgit]

Why do you find it necessary to swear all the time Goodsoulette, (perhaps you should consider changing your name, I dont consider you a good soul at all) I was only putting forward a senario,based on the report I read in the newspaper. I neither said this was the true case or that I condoned the terrible actions it in any way.

You yourself quoted a case in France were a man murdered all his children that he had for the weekend. Yes obviously nuts (or driven nuts).

Once again I Repeat to all those that somehow think I condone his actions I DON'T. Only to say who knows how the brain would react to only being allowed to see one's children for a limited time each month.

Some would say IT WOULD DRIVE ME MAD, precisely.