Is this justice?

[amsterdammer]

A 44yr old black man walks free from court with a smirk on his face after being convicted of a vicious attack on a 96yr old war veteran, which was unprovoked and leaves him with loss of vision in one eye. Is this justice?

[carrust]

I know this is a bit trivial, but what was a 96 yr old man doing standing-up on the tram. Don't people give-up their seats anymore to the elderly & infirm.

[anotheoldgit]

Afraid not carrust, it all went out the door with discipline, manners and respect, welcome to the real world.

[Eastender]

Suppose they will wait, until he actually Kills some innocent victim as usual. Its a disgrace.

[sp1814]

anotheoldgit

You couldn't be more wrong.

You could try, but you would be unsuccessful.

Wouldn't you find it odd if I posted something along the lines of

"White buglars kills old lady and only gets 12 months suspended sentence"?

Wouldn't your eyes go straight to the irrelevent adjective?

This is the weirdest thread I've ever seen. It's so obvious that the key point was that the guy is a paranoid schizophrenic. Ignoring that, and concentrating on his race is about 15 kilometres past dumb.

[amsterdammer]

This thread started out as a straight forward question. As the word BLACK was included, other people seized on this, & made an issue out of it, this was not my original intention. I reiterate, i make no apologies saying he was black.SUBJECT CLOSED!!

[sp1814]

Good lord.

[amsterdammer]

White buglars?

[sp1814]

Yep.

You'd never even think of mentioning someone's race unless they're black.

It's a pernicious form of ugly racism.

I hate it...and so do many other posters looking at the thread.

[sp1814]

One other thing...I'm not saying that a person's race can never be mentioned in a news story. However, it needs to be pertinent to the story.

It would be the same if, say, the first white man had been elected President of Nigeria. That is pertinent to the story.

If the attack was motivated by race, then again, mentioning the man's race would be relevant.

However, it wasn't.

What you should have written was:

44yr old schizophrenic man walks free from court with a smirk on his face after being convicted of a vicious attack on a 96yr old war veteran, which was unprovoked and leaves him with loss of vision in one eye. Is this justice?

His condition was pertinent to the story. His race wasn't.

[Gromit]

44yr old schizophrenic man walks free from court with a smirk on his face after being convicted of a vicious attack on a 96yr old war veteran, which was unprovoked and leaves him with loss of vision in one eye. Is this justice?

But sp1814, they can't get outraged at that, and they wanna be outraged!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

You couldn't be more wrong, but you was.

You missed amsterdammer's point , it was your incorrect spelling of burglar that he/she was highlighting.

[amsterdammer]

Thank you ANOTHEROLDGIT, I think Gromit & his cohort SP1814 are so schizophrenic on this question they missed this. Either that or they are so far up their own a**ess, their vision is obscured!

[China Doll]

Leaving aside the vast amusement I just got out of the idea of Splat and Gromit being up their own ar$es....

The point remains that the fact that the man was black rather than that he was mentally ill was deemed more important when you posted your question and as such implies that you care less about the story and more about the propoganda behind it.

Why is that?

[amsterdammer]

China Doll Quite incorrect, it wasnt I who made an issue of the assailents colour, only the people who took up the thread, he could have been a Welshman, & I would still have included this in the original question, no doubt upsetting the likes of the RAGGY( ass) ROMAN. To whom i may add- not little, 6ft2in, & 13st.2lb. actually!

[China Doll]

I'm not all that concerned about your height or weight, we're all the same font round here ;0)

That's because there's a hidden agenda in your question which comes out to those that care to see the question for what it is rather than what you want them to.

Basically, if you wanted to promote debate about justice the word black would never have needed to be there. It's just a bloke that smirked and walked free.

If you were out to cause mischief then you could have left out both race and the mental illness and let people work themselves in to a frenzy of outrage at the justice part while others argued the fact that had they read more of the story they'd have noticed the bloke in question also had a mental illness.

If you were truely looking for a debate in the issue then you might actually have discussed the topic of mental health issues in the community and what could/should/would be done about it.

It doesn't appear to me you wanted any of those things, just hits on your thread. But of course, I could be wrong.

I don't think I am though.

[amsterdammer]

CD Weight height for Raggyass, keep your nose out. You do post long answers, brevity please! But scrolling through this site i see you see you spend the majority of the day on it, so no wonder!

[Doc Spock]

Where I live all rapes and muggings are carried out by Asian youths.

The country has had it.

[Gromit]

Good post CD.

I think you hit a nerve judging by the Lost argument, go into personal attack mode type reply.