Disarming Britain

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Anyone watch these documentaries showing the abyss that this country has fallen into, due to gangs, gang violence?

[tigerlily11]

I try not to. It doesn't achieve anything other than raising blood pressure.

[bazwillrun]

most of the crime problems(guns & knives) are directly attributable to black gangsta rap culture, but as usual the politicians and all the do gooder lefties just wont admit.

blacks have caused it and for some reason chavvy scum kidsa seem to think its cool to try and act black, talking pigdin english etc etc

[brionon]

We have control of ALL kids from age 5 to 16 {?}. Bring back discipline in Schools.

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RAGGY I absolutely welcome people speaking the truth and theior minds, its what this country lacks, you for one are renound for it. Please do speak your mind, its what the question wants.

What are your thoughts on this subject? Personally, my daughter will not be living amongst this sh1te when she is a bit older.

[stonekicker]

i did watch that programme and was just astounded by the numb-nutted attitude of the children they showed. where are their parents? what are they teaching them? people who allow their 11-12 year olds to smoke dope and behave like that should have their kids taken off them and be locked up themselves for being such a waste of space as a parent. personally, i don't see what is cool about swaggering along the street like you've sh1t yourself, wanting respect for doing sod all and getting banged up for a long stretch after you have been a tw@t and hurt someone.

[leyenda_dos]

Seems the norm and is the rule rather than the exception.
I worry for kids growing up in britain its a cess pool of drugs and violence.Dont blame america its just a result of deprivation , inner city poverty , thatcherism was the start of it and things have gone downhill since then she made the working class an underclass.huges areas ofworking class folk without jobs and now theres been a change of opinions over the years and its all about material things , money , cars , get it or steal it.
Thatchers britain the next generation.

[stonekicker]

i agree, layenda. people and the media go on about immigrants and black people being responsible for all the crime, but they seem to conveniently forget the white trash living in the sink estates - of which there are far, far more (too many in my opinion). i know people will moan at me for bringing that up, but if people keep buying into that culture and not challenging it, where will we end up? all my local council estates are no go areas, particularly after dark - unless i want to go and get mugged/stabbed/taunted/abused in some fashion (or i want to dish it out, of course). i have been homeless, on the dole, a young parent, low wage earner and its taken me fifteen years of hard work, stress and madness at times to get myself a decent home (albeit an expensively rented one), a degree and a decent job (eight months ago) in order to survive in this tough, unforgiving world. if others can't be bothered to do that, why does society owe them anything? surely being a shelf stacker or a cleaner (both of which jobs i have done) has to be better than the posturing and bleating of the masses depicted in the programme?

[vehelpfulguy]

>huges areas of working class folk without jobs

There seems to be plenty of jobs for the Polish and others that come here.

And it did not start with Thatcher, it started (and continues) by giving a whole group of people in society benefits without asking for ANYTHING in return.

And has been stated, massive uncontrolled immigration has allowed thousands of unemployable black kids to live here and behave like they do in Africa.

I bet if we removed EVERY balck person from the UK knife crime would drop to almost zero. What a wonderful thought but too late of course, the country is ruined.

[leyenda_dos]

Sadly stonekicker their attitude comes from their parents and people around them.From school youre taught that a shelf stacker or a cleaner is a demeaning job.You see endless posst on here about working in macdonalds etc .yet if noone worked theer how would the great and the good get a big mac?

its a problem with society that they look down on the working class, and now theres an underclass who see working class jobs as demeaning as those middle class folk do.


Seems the intelligent folk have taught the scum how to look down on ordinary jobs.

[leyenda_dos]

very what a klot of rubbish.

the white scum of britain the chavvy dole punters wont do the jobs poles do.

thatcher changed the working class and demonised some of them.
by selling them houses she made them lower middle classs .they in turn looked down on mere working class folk.
you read it here all the time .working classs folk slagging off council houses !!!
wheer were the majority of folk here raised ?if even only for a few years ?probably a council house or ex council house .



absolute lower middle class rubbish mate

[Oneeyedvic]

And has been stated, massive uncontrolled immigration has allowed thousands of unemployable black kids to live here and behave like they do in Africa.

I bet if we removed EVERY balck person from the UK knife crime would drop to almost zero. What a wonderful thought but too late of course, the country is ruined.

Yes, because the mods and rockers did not exist and there were never any knife fights in Brighton - la la la la, I can't hear you - its just Black people, la la la la.

[stonekicker]

whats with all the racist generalisation crap on here? i work with plenty of black people and without any problems - usually they are a hard working, proud cultured people and don't always get the handouts people think they do - for instance asylum seekers are not eligable for council housing but usually end up in cramped crap temporary accommodation and claim housing benefit for it (probably costing more in the long run due to being ripped off by landlords and the astronomical housing market). i enjoy working with my diverse range of colleagues, learn lots about other cultures and beliefs and this helps me to understand more people and issues in my community. btw, vhelpfulguy - the reason that all the polish people are coming over here is because none of the great unwashed in our country would stoop so low as to do the menial, working class jobs that they willingly and happily do. if it helps them and makes sure my car gets fixed/tesco shelves are stacked/hospitals get cleaned - what is wrong with that? stop benefits and make the chavs do it instead if they are able - except that they wont, will they?

[New Judge]

Stop blaming Mrs Thatcher, leylanda_dos.

She has been out of office for seventeen years and I do not remember knife and gun crime increasing so dramatically in the twelve years she was PM as it has recently.

As most working people who were around then will know, her era was the making of most of the �working class� who were prepared to get off their backsides. They were given the opportunities to buy property, own shares and enjoy levels of affluence that their parents could only dream of. Yes it�s true that workers in some of the heavy industries suffered � but they, along with most of the rest of the population, would have suffered even more had things gone on as they were. Nonetheless, many of them successfully made the change to other careers and prospered.

The root cause of these latest problems is lack of respect for other people (the very thing most of the perpetrators are said to crave for themselves) coupled with lack of proper law enforcement and justice. Couple this with an administration crippled by political correctness to such a degree that not even the causes of the problem can be adequately discussed or debated, and you have a recipe for continued mayhem.

[stonekicker]

new judge - bingo.

[stonekicker]

the bit that i agreed with layenda about was that britain is turning into a cess pool and the materialistic nature of modern society - just to be clear!