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Suicide 'encouraged' to jump
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Derby -Police-Criticise-Crowd-Who-Encouraged-Shaun-D ykes-To-Jump-Off-Westfield-Shopping-Centre/Art icle/200810115110890?f=rss
Press reports advise that while this young man was being taked to by negotiators, some of the crowd on the ground were calling to him to jump, with phrases like 'Get on with it ...' and 'How far will you bounce ...'.
Leaving aside the knee-jerk reaction of disgust at such behaviour, does anyone have any theories about why the crowd mentality takes over at scenes like this? Why do people make stupid flippant remarks, and then rush to film the poor man's corpse after he took their 'advice' and jumped.
Please don't post if you only want to rant about 'doing the same to them' - I am interested in any genuine insights into why people behave like this when faced with a potential fatality.
Press reports advise that while this young man was being taked to by negotiators, some of the crowd on the ground were calling to him to jump, with phrases like 'Get on with it ...' and 'How far will you bounce ...'.
Leaving aside the knee-jerk reaction of disgust at such behaviour, does anyone have any theories about why the crowd mentality takes over at scenes like this? Why do people make stupid flippant remarks, and then rush to film the poor man's corpse after he took their 'advice' and jumped.
Please don't post if you only want to rant about 'doing the same to them' - I am interested in any genuine insights into why people behave like this when faced with a potential fatality.
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No, can't agree that they are the same admarlow.
Watching the news is a pretty standard way of assimilating information, the majority of adults do it, and often something really shocking or distresssing has been played before you are fully aware of it, and react to avoid it.
Seeking out a video means making a concious decision to watch something. You set aside time to watch, you actively seek out the video from what ever source you have, you take it home, you put it in your machine, and you sit down to watch. That bears no resemblence what ever to seing something on a news bulletin.
I have never found myself simply watching a video, unaware of what i am about to see, and I am sure you haven't either - because the situation simply does not arise.
Watching the news is a pretty standard way of assimilating information, the majority of adults do it, and often something really shocking or distresssing has been played before you are fully aware of it, and react to avoid it.
Seeking out a video means making a concious decision to watch something. You set aside time to watch, you actively seek out the video from what ever source you have, you take it home, you put it in your machine, and you sit down to watch. That bears no resemblence what ever to seing something on a news bulletin.
I have never found myself simply watching a video, unaware of what i am about to see, and I am sure you haven't either - because the situation simply does not arise.
I think there are two factors behind this sort of behaviour of the people.
First one is to do with how people think about others. If all those people shouting and encouraging him to jump would somehow believe in that tomorrow it might be their Son, Brother, Father, Husband, or any loved standing up there for the same purpose and people shouting the same thing. How would they feel? In simple words, put yourselves in someone else�s shoes.
Second thing is even more important. Over here we are not allowed to show any thing on the TV where people might get disturbed. Like dead bodies in case of accidents, fatalities and blood. I know many would have reasons behind but on the other hand that is taking people away from few realities of the life and they are becoming more insensitive.
When I was a kid we used to hear an old saying where I am from. Always visit a graveyard or a hospital at least once a month so you should realise what life is all about.
First one is to do with how people think about others. If all those people shouting and encouraging him to jump would somehow believe in that tomorrow it might be their Son, Brother, Father, Husband, or any loved standing up there for the same purpose and people shouting the same thing. How would they feel? In simple words, put yourselves in someone else�s shoes.
Second thing is even more important. Over here we are not allowed to show any thing on the TV where people might get disturbed. Like dead bodies in case of accidents, fatalities and blood. I know many would have reasons behind but on the other hand that is taking people away from few realities of the life and they are becoming more insensitive.
When I was a kid we used to hear an old saying where I am from. Always visit a graveyard or a hospital at least once a month so you should realise what life is all about.
Well maybe they should make it law that if you encourage someone to commit suicide then you can be charged with manslaughter and jailed.
I can't understand why people would do something like that. why didn't anyone on the ground make the effort to find these a*seholes and send them away from the area or charge them with some sort of breach of the peace.
I hope they are pleased with themselves that they caused some ones death. They probably went to their local that night and bragged about it to their mates.
In future prehaps the police will learn that if some one is threatening to throw themselves off a building they will clear the area of jackoffs.
I can't understand why people would do something like that. why didn't anyone on the ground make the effort to find these a*seholes and send them away from the area or charge them with some sort of breach of the peace.
I hope they are pleased with themselves that they caused some ones death. They probably went to their local that night and bragged about it to their mates.
In future prehaps the police will learn that if some one is threatening to throw themselves off a building they will clear the area of jackoffs.
The report mentioned the almost reality tv like reaction of the crowd and I tend to agree. Programmes like BB have made baying for blood (albeit metaphorically) on eviction night normal and expected. Some of these kids quite honestly don't know any difference between reality and reality tv. Makes you wonder if their parent's would care if they knew what their little darlings had been up to during the day!
I am of the generation that has seen more violence on tv than any before it.
The thing is that some people are going to say these things reguardless of how much violence they are exposed to.
I would and could never say the things these any one who is feeling so low that they want to end it all.
No matter how much violence I have seen.
Seeing some one die is an appauling thing no matter how it happens. The fact is we look at these images in some way to assure ourselves that we are still able to feel pain for others. Most on seeing such things feel that pang of sympathy and empathy and that connects us as humans. But some can't seem to make that connection. Hence the morons in the crowd.
In a world where violence is all around us in one way or another it is sometimes good that we do not turn our backs on it. It helps to remind us that we are all fragile and it could very well be us next. It also helps us to makes sure that others, and not only ourselves, do not suffer the same fate.
The thing is that some people are going to say these things reguardless of how much violence they are exposed to.
I would and could never say the things these any one who is feeling so low that they want to end it all.
No matter how much violence I have seen.
Seeing some one die is an appauling thing no matter how it happens. The fact is we look at these images in some way to assure ourselves that we are still able to feel pain for others. Most on seeing such things feel that pang of sympathy and empathy and that connects us as humans. But some can't seem to make that connection. Hence the morons in the crowd.
In a world where violence is all around us in one way or another it is sometimes good that we do not turn our backs on it. It helps to remind us that we are all fragile and it could very well be us next. It also helps us to makes sure that others, and not only ourselves, do not suffer the same fate.
Isnt it a sign of mental instability and a need to seee others in pain ??
I remember only a week ago lucy thomas on here telling mikejon to stop p�ssing about and kill himself , and could he put it on you tube ?
Thats the kind of sick depraved weirdo whod stand in a crowd baying for blood.
Then come on here and correct folks spelling ?
Freaks and sociopaths .
D T H ?�
I remember only a week ago lucy thomas on here telling mikejon to stop p�ssing about and kill himself , and could he put it on you tube ?
Thats the kind of sick depraved weirdo whod stand in a crowd baying for blood.
Then come on here and correct folks spelling ?
Freaks and sociopaths .
D T H ?�
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