Police investigating MPs expenses leak

[Hymie]

I see that our MPs have asked the police to investigate who leaked their expense details to the press, no doubt with a view to the person responsible being prosecuted.

Isn't this a bit like a burglar, caught red-handed, asking the police to investigate and prosecute the person who reported him to the police?

Have our MPs no shame, as well as no honesty?

[Joy11]

if you or I had fiddled the people you work for,,,,Sacked, so all of them should be, have a hung parliement, everyone taking an oath like a judge, doctor ect;
Commision a block of "flats" in London, that one is yours, and that's yours,,,,,,
the ones with a young family on the lower level, security gates and key-pads, all done out much of the same decor, car-parking in the basement,,, makes me bl00dy angry to be taken for a fool by them !!!

[1rovert]

I do believe that most people agree with MPs allowances. BUT! We put our trust in them to use the allowances fairly, tampax � manure � kit-kat and such like, should be paid for with their own money, they are NOT necessities.

These people we trusted, have let us down. They are unworthy to be in the government, and sacked and I might add, prosecuted for misuse of public money. Of course they labour, and will get away with it.
I expect this behaviour from a Tory, but not from my own kind.


They ARE legal thieves.

[Joy11]

well said, they are scum, I am and have been a labour voter all my life and have never witnessed such arrogance and believing in what they have done is well within the rules,,

[whifffey]

How would any of you do it differently? There is so much indignation about the "gumment" and MP's allowances, and all that. Would YOU be any cleaner, what do you actually want? Spell it out please, for the moment it sounds like very sour grapes. If you want to contribute to the government of your country you have to accept some committment. It's so much easier to do sod all and blame the "gumment"

[1rovert]

You may be right whiffey.
Having been cursed with a conscience, I am not perfect and have faults, and done some things I am sorry for, but I have never betrayed a trust.
I have always believed �to do unto others as I would like done to me�. For some reason,
I could never do the dirty on anyone(I only wish I could).
I sometimes pray to god, that I could be able to rob and steal, maybe murder someone, I just couldn�t do it, its against my nature.
I give help whenever I can, and been taken advantage for it, and still I go on helping.
You are probably right that anyone going into parliament, would take advantage of their situation, I personally believe that�s why they do it. Just ask a politician a yes or no question, they never answer it, they all seem to say �that which is untrue�.

[jno]

Goodness, if you're 'scum' for claiming for a Kit-Kat, what words do you have left to accuse paedophiles?

[TCL-MUMPING]

All yous who are calling the MPs, have you stopped to think that the "evidence" may be wrong? A till receipt may show a whole list of items, only some of which are claimed as expenses. There are also MPs who have said that other MPs' receipts have been wrongly attributed to them.

I'd be surprised if the Daily Telegraph's own staff had every expenses claim accepted and will the Editor be revealing his and his colleagues' claims I wonder?

Will he be printing how much he paid for the information?

I suspect the answer will be "No" to both questions.

[ludwig]

Your faith in our leaders is quite touching TCL. It's good that not everyone's an old cynic like me, and I really mean that. However..

Imagine we had a different system of paying tax so that everyone received an itemised bill for government expenditure to the value of the tax they owed.
So your bill contains mock tudor pillars to enhance john prescotts home �300, 3 new televisions for Hazel Blears �2700, garden furniture, bath plugs, kit kats etc.

Would you be happy to write out a cheque for all that stuff, or would you want to know why people who are millionaires can't buy their own Kit Kats like the rest of us have to?

You would be happy? ok let me make it harder for you then. Mock tudor pillars for David Cameron's home, 3 new televisions and a Kit Kat for George Osborne, and a patio set for Ken Clarke. Not so happy now perhaps.

Whiffey asks a good question - would anyone of us do it differently? If we're honest the answer is no. We'd go along with it like all of them, because that's how it works - the electorate wouldn't like it if we gave ourselves a 100% pay rise, so we get that other 100% through the expenses system - it's all above board because the rules aren't broken and everyone's doing it in every party right up to the P.M.
Newcomers to parliament may feel a bit uneasy about
it, but any sense of enease evaporates after about 8 weeks when the cheques start coming through.

It doesn't make it right though. If they need more money they should have the balls to argue that through and convince the electorate of it instead of grubbing around for more money in such a shabby fashion.

[Whoever]

I work as a volunteer. Jo Public and the Police are welcome to come and inspect my expenses. They are Minus Zero since whatever expenses I incur are paid for out of my own pocket, right down to the last Second Class postage stamp I use.

[ludwig]

Here you go TCL, here's your local representative..he's showed remarkable restraint compared to some of them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-118069 6/Health-minister-pay-41-000-Westminster-gravy -train-forced-rails.html










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Mr Hope, Labour MP for Corby and East Northants, then followed suit this morning, along with other MPs who decided they had to do the same.

He had furnished his tiny flat in south London with a new chest of drawers, mattress, television, sofa, armchair, washing machine, three chairs, two bookcases, one coffee table, a wardrobe and a dining-room table at taxpayers' expense.

The MP, who is responsible for social care, including old people's homes, also installed a new kitchen, seven doors and wooden flooring in the four-room property.

The �41,709 figure he has pledged to repay covers his claims for furniture, fixtures and fittings received over a five year period.

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[tamborine]

MPs should be subject to same laws for theft as gen public.....fingerprints/DNA/police record - that'll stop them having sunshine hols at tax payers expense!