ian huntley is to sue after being attacked in prison....

[stokemaveric]

he should have been hanged and then none of this would be happening...

[in a mo]

THETRUTHHURTS.
Prison cannot be that harsh, it seems to have massive attendance record,people do not seem to be put off by the thought ,anyway it should be harsh ,maybe then attendance figures will go down.

For Harsh try Try Prisons in Mexico or Argentina that's harsh.

[Bobbisox]

what I have seen on various documentaries, they offend to get sent back in?
maybe institutionalized eh?

[thetruthhurts]

docspock
All I can say to that thetruthhurts is, they got the wrong man. XXXX

That was my reaction at the time but the fact is, you can't have a society where vigilantism rules. And if you ask me 'was it worth it' then no it was not. four years out of my life for 30 seconds of retribution.

[TCL-MUMPING]

If doc believes those behind bars have no rights, it would not matter what the sentence was for.

[Bobbisox]

arr Doc, does bar-stuard even pay it????

[Bobbisox]

<the bar-stard>

[TCL-MUMPING]

Why not default? You'd save some money AND get a free holiday, RESULT!

[Bobbisox]

Huntley and co, don't have that burden of paying Bills TCL

[123everton]

You can ascertain how civilised a society is by the way it treats it's prisoners.
It's dangerous to use vile people like Ian Huntley as an example of why things need to change as he invokes no sympathy.
We don't have the death penalty, so he has to be allowed to live, and, like all prisoners he has to be afforded a degree of human dignity and safety, the alternitive doesn't bear thinking about.
A simple example of how things in prison seem to work (never been in one) a lifer for murder (a Scouser too) was put to work cleaning the yard, the litter stopped because he intimidated the other inmates.
That is not how you reform killers.
You could find yourself inside too you know, driving down the road minding your own business, lights change, didn't notice, kill a pedestrian crossing the road....
I know lots of people who've killed whilst driving.

[thetruthhurts]

bobbisox, yes you're right there are those who deliberately re offend. Usually these are homeless people or persistent drug users who enjoy the medical support and the warm bed and hot food.

[Bobbisox]

and on that note...?
good debate btw,
bfn x

[boxtops]

Just listening to the 2pm radio news and it's reported that the Justice Ministry still intends to resist this claim strongly.

[McMouse]

I think I know the solution.

[bobjugs12]

(I've no idea if anyone has already made this pint, as I'm not gonna read through 114 posts to find out lol)

The problem with this case in particular is the amount of emotion stirred up by the case involved. The law (by definition) has to be emotionless, and the decisions and rules based on logic and reason.

Regardless of whether you agree with the sentance or not (and I do), we do not have it in this country. As a result a prisoner sentanced to live the rest of his life behind bars has the basic right to expect food, water, shelter, medical care and safety.

Now Huntley has stirred up this passion because of what he has done, but take the name of the prisoner out of the equation. Would you be advocating a similar sort of mob punishment against a stockbroker convicted of fraud, or a housewife who ran someone down whilst talking on her phone, or the old lady who repeatedly refused to pay her council tax, or the husband who came home to find his wife in bed with his best mate and punched the mate to death? These people are all criminals too.

We are a civilised nation because we have a rule of law that is dictated by reason, not by a media-led frenzy based on biased opinions and reported facts.

[jackthehat]

Once (if) Huntley is awarded any compensation, the familes of Jessica and Holly ought to take out a civil action against him..........for exactly the same sum he's awarded.

[bobjugs12]

JTH, I completely agree, I also think that he should not be allowed to claim against the prison service per se, and instead be directed towards the purportraters of the assault for any legal compensation.

[eyethenkyew]

Well, if there's a country where miscarriages of justice are commonplace, this is it. And if Huntley succeeds, that will only add to the tally.
It's high time that our good old British sense of justice worked in favour of the real victims in all of this - the families of the two girls he so callously murdered.

[bundleone]

Of course there needs to be protection for prisoners, but if one is particularly at risk,like Huntley they should be in solitary confinement. and should never have the right to sue with legal aid

The law should be changed to stop all this sort of thing.

[bobjugs12]

eyethenkyew, your statement "Well, if there's a country where miscarriages of justice are commonplace, this is it. And if Huntley succeeds, that will only add to the tally" is a little incorrect. If you were talking about Somalia, or North Korea then I would agree, but in the UK you are talking bobbins.
We have the most scrutinised justice system in the world, and atop that we have the most ruthless media in the world. Do you honestly believe that MOJ are regular occurances?