i really do despair for humanity sometimes!

[sherminator]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...world-europe-11022260

That poor effing creature! It must have been absolutely terrified! Is this really how far humans have come?

Cna we not treat anything under us with just the slightest bit of respect!

[jno]

nice to see the bull getting its own back. No sympathy for injured humans (except the kids maybe)

[LoftyLottie]

Have just posted something similar sherminator in Animals and Nature. Dreadful isn't it! The poor animal was obviously trying to escape and, as you say, must have been terrified.

[VHG]

Maybe some of them will think twice before going to a bullfight again !

Good thing to.

[Nosha123]

you should see what they do to the bulls to get them angry before releasing them into the ring.... just awful....

The Spanish are so cruel to animals!!

[naomi24]

Been there and seen it. Good for the bull!!

[Nosha123]

til the bull got killed Naomi!!!

They killed it after catching it...

[naomi24]

What else would you expect Nosha? There's no compassion for the bull - ever.

[Sqad]

Nosha...oddly enough, the Spanish are NOT cruel to animals.

However, I cannot stand and would not watch a bullfight.

P:S Don´t forget the disgusting cruelty to animals in the UK before we get too sanctimonious.

[Bbbananas]

True. I bet, all in all, the Brits top the Spanish for animal cruelty.

Of course, I have no basis or evidence whatsoever to back this up. Just saying.

[Nosha123]

Sorry Sqad but I beg to differ...

chucking goats off church towers, drowning bulls, bull fights...

Have you ever witnessed them jabbing the bulls prior to a bull run - with a metal spear - to make the bull angry!!! I guess not...

Spanish families sometimes have more than one home - one in the city and one in the countryside - during the winter months they live permanently in the city - but leave the dogs to guard the house alone.. just going to feed them every few days...

Shall I continue?

Chickens hung upside down from a line and hit with a lump of wood til they are decapitated???

I'm not be sancitmonious - but they do all of the above in the honour of tradition!!

[Nosha123]

Sqad - they dont call them BLOOD FIESTAS for nothing you know...

along with all the abandoned animals and sanctuaries set up by ex-pats and animal charities..

[xstitcher]

Bullfighting has been banned in Catalonia...the province of which Barcelona is the capital, so slowly, very slowly I expect it will become a thing of the past.

[naomi24]

I agree with Nosha. The Spanish are cruel - they torture the bull before the fight - and they do leave their dogs to guard their second homes and fend for themselves often for very long periods of time. Maybe that isn't apparent in the built up areas occupied by ex-pats, but go into the mountains and you can't miss it.

[Nosha123]

when I asked a spanish friend of mine why they continued to do bull fighting she answered "its tradition - been done for centuries"

however - the younger generation are becoming more intolerant of it - and so yes i think we hopefully may see it phased out.

[Sqad]

Nosha....I take your point......but there are others ways to show cruelty to animals other than hanging chickens upside down and leaving dogs tied up all day.

How about the "dog fighting" the abandonment of puppies and kittens after Christmas, Battersea Dogs home "puts down" over a thousand abandoned dogs a week, the Police dog handler who let two of his dogs die of hyperthermia in his car.....and so on and so on.

[Nosha123]

Naomi

the family I know would go to the country house once a week to feed their Alsation.. who lived outside guarding the house. He was their pet - and lived with them in the house when they were there in the summer.. but I never figured out how a dog would be able to ration his food to last him a whole week... poor thing!

[naomi24]

They scavange for anything they can find, Nosha, insects included. We have a house in the mountains and invariably 'adopt' half a dozen dogs every time we're there.

[Nosha123]

Sqad I agree there are many ways of abusing animals.. and am a true and avid animal lover.. I cant even bring myself to read some threads on here that have the opening line "I cant believe this poor animal.. etc etc"

We as Brits are known as a race of animal lovers - but obviously thhere are many thousands of people who are sickeningly cruel - and if I could I would wipe them all out...

My point was - that a nation actually support the traditions like in Spain just because they always have - and they seem to enjoy the blood sport. Similar to the fox hunting and badger baiting we have here in the UK.

Neither are right and both sicken me... but the Spanish have historically had a bit of a reputation for a lack of compassion to animals.... as do other nations...

[Nosha123]

aaah Naomi thats lovely you feed them!

My mum feeds the stray cats where she is - and also tries to trap them and get the females spayed - so they cant keep getting pregnant.. the strays are always born ill and sickly and dont live very long - plus they are quite inbred so have genetic defects etc...

Costs her a small fortune in cat food - but she gets a special voucher for spaying from a charity