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What planet are judges on ?
One wonders what would have happened if it was the judges child that died.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...d-lancashire-12007100
I dont know how they can sleep at night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/...d-lancashire-12007100
I dont know how they can sleep at night.
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What the judges do is apply the law - which is not the same as agreeing with what the law prescribes.
It is always easy to pick on an emotive subject such as this - but what happened was an accident - a tragedy, but still an accident.
To uproot two innocent children and send them to a foreign country because of the actions of their father would be harsh indeed.
It is always easy to pick on an emotive subject such as this - but what happened was an accident - a tragedy, but still an accident.
To uproot two innocent children and send them to a foreign country because of the actions of their father would be harsh indeed.
>>As bad as it is I'm sure he didn't go out with the intention of knocking someone down
That is one of the most pathetic statements i have seen this year.
He had no license, he was bannded from driving, the coward ran off after the accident.
I wonder if you would feel the same if it had been your child or wife or mother under the wheels of the car.
Scum of the earth welcome here.
That is one of the most pathetic statements i have seen this year.
He had no license, he was bannded from driving, the coward ran off after the accident.
I wonder if you would feel the same if it had been your child or wife or mother under the wheels of the car.
Scum of the earth welcome here.
The judges don't toss a coin in coming to their decisions...........
Their hands are tied by a whole raft of legislation; some of it National and some International.
It just so happens that this idiot is protected *under law* from being deported........and whether palatable, or not, we have to live with that !
Their hands are tied by a whole raft of legislation; some of it National and some International.
It just so happens that this idiot is protected *under law* from being deported........and whether palatable, or not, we have to live with that !
As Andy says, you need to ask what planet are the legislators on.
The gentleman in question was convicted of driving whilst disqualified (maximum six months custody) and failing to stop after an accident (maximum six months custody). So, bearing in mind that the law says that sentences for multiple offences committed at the same time should normally be served concurrently, and he presumably pleaded guilty (entitling him to a third off) the sentence is about right.
He was allowed to stay in the UK because of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights and our associated Human Rights Act of 1998.
It's not the judges you need to question, neil, but the legislators.
The gentleman in question was convicted of driving whilst disqualified (maximum six months custody) and failing to stop after an accident (maximum six months custody). So, bearing in mind that the law says that sentences for multiple offences committed at the same time should normally be served concurrently, and he presumably pleaded guilty (entitling him to a third off) the sentence is about right.
He was allowed to stay in the UK because of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights and our associated Human Rights Act of 1998.
It's not the judges you need to question, neil, but the legislators.
No matter how much i try to be objective and see it from the laws point of view ,I know he didnt go out to hit the child,i cant get out of my head that he left a her in that state and ran away,that dosent deserve 4 months detention,and anyway,why do they always run the sentences concurrently,why not add them up together.its time this country started to dish out some sensible sentences.This isnt justice.
a previous poster points out that this 'person' is protected because of the EU laws on human rights.
I have just listened to the dead girl's father on the radio. He said that this 'person' has the right to take his family anywhere, and wondered about his human right to have been able to take his daughter anywhere.
Although I know that judges are supposed to follow the law when sentencing a criminal, but the judge in this case should submit his unease (if he indeed feels any) in this case to the lawmakers.
I have wondered if the judge feels any unease because for the most part judges have no connection to real life and those that live it.
If they feel unease they should shout it from the rooftops and keep doing so till the lawmakers finally listen.
I have just listened to the dead girl's father on the radio. He said that this 'person' has the right to take his family anywhere, and wondered about his human right to have been able to take his daughter anywhere.
Although I know that judges are supposed to follow the law when sentencing a criminal, but the judge in this case should submit his unease (if he indeed feels any) in this case to the lawmakers.
I have wondered if the judge feels any unease because for the most part judges have no connection to real life and those that live it.
If they feel unease they should shout it from the rooftops and keep doing so till the lawmakers finally listen.
I was involved in "crime fighting" for many years and used to go home and bend my wife's ear about how "the law is a total f*****g ass!!!" thousands of times, having seen either guilty people literally escape punishment, or receive a slight tap on the wrist for their misdemeanours. But I still ultimately had to accept the laws of the land as they stood. It was usually the application of the law which annoyed me intensely.
Also, the offenders always had extensive help at public expense with their rehabilitation whereas victims were more or less ignored. Very easy, therefore, to get all "bitter and twisted" about it all. After all, we're all only human.
I still have extreme difficulty accepting that decisions such as this one are in any way beneficial to society as a whole, it seems to me that although the law has, strictly, been applied, what kind of "justice" do such judgements bring as an example to all of us? It leaves a very poor impression, that's a fact. And, most of all, it leaves a grieving family feeling like they have been punished and the perpetrator rewarded.
Also, the offenders always had extensive help at public expense with their rehabilitation whereas victims were more or less ignored. Very easy, therefore, to get all "bitter and twisted" about it all. After all, we're all only human.
I still have extreme difficulty accepting that decisions such as this one are in any way beneficial to society as a whole, it seems to me that although the law has, strictly, been applied, what kind of "justice" do such judgements bring as an example to all of us? It leaves a very poor impression, that's a fact. And, most of all, it leaves a grieving family feeling like they have been punished and the perpetrator rewarded.
an asylum-seeker
he was already disqualified
had no licence
so he would have no valid insurance
runs over a child and leaves her stuck
dying under the wheels of his car as he runs off
........ gets 4 months jail
now if this person was on a bike i wonder if they would have given him a much stiffer sentence
remember last year A biker named Robert Bennett he was sent to jail for six months for speeding
as well as an 18-month driving ban
now he was not a criminal had a valid licence and insurance his only crime was to speed
..... gets six months
the law is vey fair in this country , i think not
he was already disqualified
had no licence
so he would have no valid insurance
runs over a child and leaves her stuck
dying under the wheels of his car as he runs off
........ gets 4 months jail
now if this person was on a bike i wonder if they would have given him a much stiffer sentence
remember last year A biker named Robert Bennett he was sent to jail for six months for speeding
as well as an 18-month driving ban
now he was not a criminal had a valid licence and insurance his only crime was to speed
..... gets six months
the law is vey fair in this country , i think not
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