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Could the British attitude change?
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Things don't look too good in Egypt, especially when it could affect that all important international shipping route, The Suez Canal.
Hearing that the Unions in this country are soon to organise mass demonstrations against the Government's cuts made me wonder, France are not slow in taking to the streets, we have recently see the riots in Tunisia, and now the riots in Egypt.
Is it the ethnic identity of the peoples of these countries, that make them react so violently, and if so taking into account the alteration in our ethnicity due to the huge influx of foreign nations to this country, could the once easy laid back and tolerant attitude of the British people change?
Things don't look too good in Egypt, especially when it could affect that all important international shipping route, The Suez Canal.
Hearing that the Unions in this country are soon to organise mass demonstrations against the Government's cuts made me wonder, France are not slow in taking to the streets, we have recently see the riots in Tunisia, and now the riots in Egypt.
Is it the ethnic identity of the peoples of these countries, that make them react so violently, and if so taking into account the alteration in our ethnicity due to the huge influx of foreign nations to this country, could the once easy laid back and tolerant attitude of the British people change?
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DTcrosswordfan
/// AOG get back on track with this thread that you started and debate the question.///
I would be only too pleased to do so, in fact I noticed that it was your previous thread that did indeed debate my question, (surprisingly without the need to include insults as you have in this post), but soon others used their diversionary methods of trying to get me to answer non-relevant questions.
How can one carry on debating a subject, if one doesn't get anyone else to join in?
Why else do you think I enter questions? it is not for some perverted intellectual masturbation and pleasure as you suggest,.
If I wanted to follow their silly games I wouldn't post questions but would join the rest of the sheep and nit-pick other's sensible questions and answers.
/// AOG get back on track with this thread that you started and debate the question.///
I would be only too pleased to do so, in fact I noticed that it was your previous thread that did indeed debate my question, (surprisingly without the need to include insults as you have in this post), but soon others used their diversionary methods of trying to get me to answer non-relevant questions.
How can one carry on debating a subject, if one doesn't get anyone else to join in?
Why else do you think I enter questions? it is not for some perverted intellectual masturbation and pleasure as you suggest,.
If I wanted to follow their silly games I wouldn't post questions but would join the rest of the sheep and nit-pick other's sensible questions and answers.
yes jno it was spare ed, but you did post the ed in your reply to me, i have reread this post several times, and i will be interested to see what abers reactions will be tomorrow giving the ongoing news reports, i think i should stay away from news in ab, because i do feel very strongly about peoples democratic right...............at least i didnt get a slapped wrist ......:)
It seems to be your contention AoG that mass demonstrations are a bad thing, something to be feared, or just viewed as a nuisance or interference in daily life. Is that your view? When policies are implemented that threaten the livelihood of thousands, maybe millions of individuals, should people just meekly accept it?
We are lucky in this country - we have a democracy, we have a reasonably transparent judicial system, and a police force that is supposedly independent, impartial, and committed to public safety and order rather than acting as political enforcers.We have a free press and a free political opposition. There are a raft of countries around the globe who do not have such luxuries, and Egypt and Tunisia are some of the higher profile examples of political hegemonies that have grown rich whilst paying scant attention to the aspirations of their citizens. The police are the enforcers of the government, the judiciary is cowed, and the press is largely bought.
And all you can do is comment that such demonstrations might affect the shipping in the Suez canal, or that their inclination to demonstrate is somehow part of their ethnicity? The British have had a long history of political protest. In some of those, violence has been a factor. Back in the 1600s, we had a bloody, and vicious civil war - the ultimate expression of mass protest. Hardly an ethnic in site. Your last point is absurd.
We are lucky in this country - we have a democracy, we have a reasonably transparent judicial system, and a police force that is supposedly independent, impartial, and committed to public safety and order rather than acting as political enforcers.We have a free press and a free political opposition. There are a raft of countries around the globe who do not have such luxuries, and Egypt and Tunisia are some of the higher profile examples of political hegemonies that have grown rich whilst paying scant attention to the aspirations of their citizens. The police are the enforcers of the government, the judiciary is cowed, and the press is largely bought.
And all you can do is comment that such demonstrations might affect the shipping in the Suez canal, or that their inclination to demonstrate is somehow part of their ethnicity? The British have had a long history of political protest. In some of those, violence has been a factor. Back in the 1600s, we had a bloody, and vicious civil war - the ultimate expression of mass protest. Hardly an ethnic in site. Your last point is absurd.
LazyGun
At least your argument fits the question, so please give me the courtesy of responding with my thoughts, without the need for you to state my last post is absurd.
To find the need to go back 400 years to prove that we have also had bloody episodes in our history is both irrelevant, unnecessary as well as absurd.
I was discussing the riots as a whole, and taking into account that it is taking place in the area of the Suez canal it would have been amiss of me not to mention it.
You said /// "It seems to be your contention AoG that mass demonstrations are a bad thing, something to be feared,"///
Of course Mass demonstrations on this scale are a bad thing, especially when peoples lives are being lost, Another factor to take into consideration is the fact that for a number of years Egypt has been the one stabilising force in that tinder box that is the Middle East..If Hosny Mubarak is toppled the question that must be asked is "who will appear on the scene to fill the vacuum"?
You may not show concern but I certainly do, with Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran waiting in the wings, a person would be a fool not to show concern.
At least your argument fits the question, so please give me the courtesy of responding with my thoughts, without the need for you to state my last post is absurd.
To find the need to go back 400 years to prove that we have also had bloody episodes in our history is both irrelevant, unnecessary as well as absurd.
I was discussing the riots as a whole, and taking into account that it is taking place in the area of the Suez canal it would have been amiss of me not to mention it.
You said /// "It seems to be your contention AoG that mass demonstrations are a bad thing, something to be feared,"///
Of course Mass demonstrations on this scale are a bad thing, especially when peoples lives are being lost, Another factor to take into consideration is the fact that for a number of years Egypt has been the one stabilising force in that tinder box that is the Middle East..If Hosny Mubarak is toppled the question that must be asked is "who will appear on the scene to fill the vacuum"?
You may not show concern but I certainly do, with Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran waiting in the wings, a person would be a fool not to show concern.
AoG - I am pointing out that we have had over 400 years of public protests, sometimes bloody, sometimes violent - and none of those needed any of your mythical ethnic input.
As for your concern about the Suez area - very honourable, I am sure, but your concern seem to be what effect it has on the West - My concern is for those protesting. Their country, their rights.
It is of course a legitimate area of discussion what geopolitical effect any change of Mubaraks government might have - but one that warrants a separate topic, rather than some weird belief that those pesky furriners are influencing the way the British protest, or dont.
As for your concern about the Suez area - very honourable, I am sure, but your concern seem to be what effect it has on the West - My concern is for those protesting. Their country, their rights.
It is of course a legitimate area of discussion what geopolitical effect any change of Mubaraks government might have - but one that warrants a separate topic, rather than some weird belief that those pesky furriners are influencing the way the British protest, or dont.
Oh, just add your ridiculous diversions, it matters not to the main issue.
Anyone with any sense can see your ulterior motives.
Why don't you come out into the open and demand that I do not post anything that is critical or might even be see to criticise anyone that are not White Caucasian.
Read my third paragraph of the question again, and without unnecessary diversions away from the question, (and after all it was a question and not a stated fact), please put up a valid argument against, and your reasons why.
Anyone with any sense can see your ulterior motives.
Why don't you come out into the open and demand that I do not post anything that is critical or might even be see to criticise anyone that are not White Caucasian.
Read my third paragraph of the question again, and without unnecessary diversions away from the question, (and after all it was a question and not a stated fact), please put up a valid argument against, and your reasons why.
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