Who struck the first blow?

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/6cuv5rp

Here we have the EDL supporters peacefully arriving at the rail station, but who is there to greet them (with cries of EDL go to hell), but members of the UAF in an attempt to block their free passage out of the rail station.

A member of the EDL peacefully approaches an UAF member, but he has his cap aggressively knocked off by another UAF.member.

What were the police doing allowing the UAF into the rail station to cause the trouble, and who was it that was showing the aggression?

[anneasquith]

why are you asking a question. you gave your interpretation of the event ?

[jake-the-peg]

//A member of the EDL peacefully approaches an UAF member//

Which video are you watching?

In the one on the webpage the EDF guy walks right up to the UAF and stares them down - pretty provocative stuff - not trying to talk to them, no it's pretty straight forward "Come on then if you think you're hard enough stuff"

[sandyRoe]

They knocked his cap off and he walked away. The EDL aren't all hard men, then?

[VHG]

Why are people who dont want extreme Muslims in this country labelled "the far right" (see article).

In the late 1930s, people who did not want nazis in the country would have been labelled "heroes" so why are these EDL people not heroes.

Or is everybody happy about this country being ruined by huge numbers of extreme Muslims.

It was announced last week that this country is a haven for extreme muslim terrorists

http://www.timesonlin...rs/article7017718.ece

[Whickerman]

...because the EDL crowd are well on the way to being Nazi perhaps?

[boxtops]

I saw something of TV the other night that the EDL leader has to wear a stab-proof vest every time he leaves his house. Well thought of, then, in the local community? It looks to me as if they don't understand the term "non-provocative".

[anotheoldgit]

Whickerman

/// because the EDL crowd are well on the way to being Nazi perhaps? ///

Have you any proof of this?

You would rather support people who can and have blown us up, than a group who are at least trying to stop the rise of Muslim fundamentalists, and have never blown anyone up?

[Whickerman]

why is it one side or the other AOG? I'n no time for either of these groups of nutters. So I would rather support the rights of people like myself who choose NOT to be an extremist one way or the other. You're free to your opinions, I happen to disagree that the EDF are harmless 'freedom fighter' types.

[jake-the-peg]

They're not bright enough to be Nazis

They're single issue obsessives

Ask them about education - they'll talk about race

Ask them about the economy they'll talk about race

Ask them about support for the performing arts they'll talk about race

They'll probably even talk about race if you ask them about Gay rights!

Remind you of anybody?

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

Take another look and see what is there and not what you want to see.

He was actually trying to talk to the other guy, check out their mouths and facial expressions.

Then he has his cap knocked off, by that black guy, but does he lunge forward to attack for that extreme provocation? no he just turns away.and his cap is aggressively kicked back to him.

The UAF were there purposely to cause trouble, why else would they meet the EDL at the station, also notice the Asian woman who had even brought her own crash hat along.

[daftgrandad]

<< Who struck the first blow >>

Theo Walcott after 2 mins

Score now Newcastle 0 Arsenal 4

Thought I,d brighten up this post !

[anotheoldgit]

jake-the-peg

Pathetic, All that from a person who obviously thinks the Nazis were bright.

Education, the economy, the performing arts, Gay rights, ??????????

Incidentally what has this got to do with race? it is a religion we are talking about.

They have never set themselves out to be a political party, as true blood English men they were formed because no one else seemed bothered about the jibes and insults that our homecoming soldiers got from Muslim extremists and also to protest at the fearful rise of Islam in our country.

Till I can find them to be anything different, I will defend them with all my might.

[anotheoldgit]

pixi-

/// can you prove they have never blown anyone up aog? ///

They have enough lies and accusations made against them, without any proof, so I am sure if they had let off as much as fire cracker outside of Guy Fawkes night, I am sure we would have known about of it.

[jake-the-peg]

Wow you really can miss the point can't you!

And I think expressions like 'True blood English men' aren't doing you any favours!

I mean next you'll be telling us how we need to keep the blood line pure.

And how our blood line is superior to inferior races.


Glad to hear that you and your EDF chums aren't Nazis though - people might have been confused

[anotheoldgit]

Whickerman

/// why is it one side or the other AOG? I'n no time for either of these groups of nutters.///

Good point, but personally I tend to side with the EDL because who else have we to stand our corner, apart from sites like this where else can one voice their concerns?

Now from your position, would you care to tell me why you think they are both extremists and nutters, have you any cause to think that?

Did you agree with the way our homecoming troops were treated, and do you not mind the rise of Islam in this country?

Not being confrontational you understand, just interested in your point of view.

[anotheoldgit]

Yes true blood Englishman, and proud of it, nothing to be ashamed of there, or under your regime (you know the ones that are bright enough to be Nazis) is one now not to boast the fact?

I am sure there are true blood Africans that are proud of the fact and true blood Native Americans that are also proud of the fact.

I am sure every nation thinks they are superior in their own particular way, or are we all to think ourselves inferior in your world of wall to wall PC.

[bazwillrun]

"Ask them about education - they'll talk about race

Ask them about the economy they'll talk about race

Ask them about support for the performing arts they'll talk about race"

but people like you JTP are happy to see this country being ruined by mass immigration and always deny the truth that is staring them in the face..

[Coobeastie]

They look and act like a bunch of football hooligans (not difficult considering many of them are former members of hooligans firms) still suppose they had to do something when violence at matches got cleaned up.

http://www.dailymail....h-Defence-League.html

[Huderon]

AOG, what ///fearful rise of Islam/// ?

The 2001 census shows there were around 1.54 million Muslims in the UK. We won't know the current figure until after the census this year, but current estimates place the figure at between 2.4 and 2.9 million today.

Now, allowing that a proportion of them must have been born here, and using the 2005 estimate for the UK birth rate, that would put the Muslim population at around 1.6 million with no immigration, emigration, deaths or conversions.

If the current estimates are correct, that would put the number of Muslims coming into the country at between 780,000 and 128,000 a year.

Hardly a ///fearful rise/// in my opinion.