Am I wrong in my feelings on this?

[Pinkypie]

Just came across this news article:

http://www.thesun.co....murdered-in-jail.html

About a child pedo/killer who has been murdered in prison..................... first words that involuntarily came out of my mouth was "One down............... !!!!"

Did a little Martial law kill anyone? (well him obviously)

[Pinkypie]

Oh well! Lets all have a cuppa! :0)

[squarebear]

lol yes. Subjects like this are always giong to divide people.

[DTCwordfan]

Well I do agree with the comments that, however obnoxious he may have been, murdering him isn't/wasn't the solution. This should be dealt with accordingly and will be. One 'advantage' is that it will keep some psycho of our streets a bit longer, To condone the action is supporting kangaroo courts and not our justice system.

This does not mean that the said gentleman deserves any sympathy. He does not; he is a total scum bucket - or sperm bucket as he probably became. Never mind the family of the victims, I hope his own family are ashamed in their grieving.

[pretty_snowdrop]

I agree with you. I just thought 'so what?'

[flip_flop]

Sandy Roe asks "Paedophilia is evil but is it as bad as murder?"

Obviously there are varying degrees of paedophilia - Graham Rix was classed as a paedophile for bedding a 15 year who he believed to be 18 and who consented to sex. Clearly this is 'technically' (I hate that word) paedophilia, but in the great scheme of things is pretty mild.

However, a grown man repeatedly raping babies/small children (alas it does happen) is, in my opinion, just as bad, possibly worse, than murder.

That said, I'd much rather have seen this guy serve a full life sentence than be killed.

[Zeuhl]

<<I'm sure the families of the murdered children don't. >>

I don't think victims or their families are the best people to frame our laws. Their personal involvement obviously prevents them from being objective, balanced and considering the 'bigger picture' which is what the law needs to be.

Personal hurt, distress and emotional reactions are hardly a good basis for managing any kind of society i would want to live in.
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[DEN53]

I wouldn't have even given this piece of sh!te column inches in the paper - good riddance.

[Bbbananas]

I shall shed no tears for the scum.

[LoftyLottie]

This does not in any way mean that I sympathise with the murdered bloke in any way, but I certainly would never wish anyone dead or be glad that they are dead. I actually agree with Zheul.

[Bbbananas]

Dead, perhaps not. But like I said, I shall shed no tears.

[McMouse]

When he was up for parole even his lawyer warned that if let out he could kill! There must be something wrong with the system if these warnings go unheeded. I have no feelings for Colin Hatch but can't condone murder whoever does it.

[kinell]

a proportion of these type of wasters then get put on 'suicide watch'

well, suicide is not a crime and they should of course be free to exercise their right, as are people at liberty in society

so lefties..are prisoners rights being witheld if someone is watching to see if you top yourself?

i spose their mental state is a direct product of the repressive legal system, you know the one that is their to protect us

[Zeuhl]

<<so lefties..are prisoners rights being witheld>>

I don't understand why you direct this at 'lefties'
I think you'll find most left wing regimes are rather unsympathetic when it comes to 'prisoners' rights'.

Perhaps you actually mean 'liberals'?

As a 'liberal' myself I agree with you that it is everyone's right to take an early exit if that is their wish.

Overall, i don't think this is about Hatch, his rights or any sympathy for him. I expect most of us don't care about him very much.

I do care however about the way people are treated by our society and in our name.
I think it was right he was confined for the rest of his life, that he was kept in humane conditions, that any illnesses (including psychological) were treated and that his personal safety was protected as far as that was practical.

I would judge that as he was in the company of other violent people, it would not be practical to protect him from another prisoner determined to harm him and unconcerned about the consequences. That has happened - so be it.

A squalid end to a squalid life.
We will all have forgotten his name by tomorrow.
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[joeluke]

A length of hemp around his neck in 1994 would have saved taxpayers a hell of a lot of money paid out since then to keep him in HM Butlins

[askyourgran]

My sentiments entirely. The man didn't think of any consequences when he was caught fiddling with little children......... twice, and I don't think the 'normal' prison sentence would have taught him a lesson. This time the children have been avenged. I don't condone murder, but I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.

[Snafu03]

and what do we know of his murderer? what trail of victims does he have behind him? something similar? someone traumatised by his crimes? Was the murderer a righteous nemesis for Colin Hatch?

'Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone'

[sir.prize]

Down the 'Hatch' - and good riddance.

[Zeuhl]

5 of the last 6 posts have been about Hatch and what he deserved in your opinions.

Frankly, Hatch is not that important.

What is important is that:

some of you want to live in a society where convicted criminals are executed even though recent events show that the system is very bad at not killing innocent people

some of you want to live in a society where doing something wrong is wrong - unless you do it to someone who has already done something wrong - then it's ok

some of you want to live in a society where you are represented by murderers, rapists and other violent criminals because their own sadistic motives conveniently coincide with your desires for revenge.

If anything is twisted or 'pervy' - that is.

You can descend to the gutter level of Hatch and his fellow prisoners - some of us aspire to be better than that.
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