Did Jesus Survive The Crucifixion?

[naomi24]

I think he did. Any armchair detectives out there who would like to add their thoughts?

[MrsLulu]

naomi24, I think this time I'll keep quite on the subject. Watch out for the sarcasm.

[modeller]

If he did , and it was him who subsequently spoke to Mary Magdeline and then to his disciples, why was he not recognised. No one recognised him.
then or later.
He or the person claiming to be him , 'rebuked them for not accepting him' on trust. 'He spent hours trying to persuade them'.
Even allowing for any injuries he made have had , this person was able to walk and talk without any trouble, yet no one recognised him or even his voice. Which in itself is important because the voice is a prime method of identification.

If he did survive the crucifixion he was not ever seen again as the Jesus they all knew.

[jomifl]

If he had any sense he would have limped off pdq asap. Hanging around would not have been a sensible choice.

[Peter Pedant]

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walk to France and invent the microprocessor ?

No the only book on the subject says he DIDNT survive.
Quite good eye witness testimony: they did not break his legs as they saw he was already dead.

[jake-the-peg]

I couldn't get this until I once saw a news item and there was some old Palestinian woman who's son was shot and killed.

She was hysterical - she truly believed she'd seen him in the flesh.

When people are upset they can convince themselves of all sorts of strange things.

No outsider saw him in the flesh - the closest thing to a doubter was one of his own disciples.


You want to proclaim the news to the world that death is conquered and following you means eternal life - you appear again on the mount of Olives and ascend in front of the crowd before the Romans can grab you.

You don't skulk about with your mates

[society]

He rose from being dead after three days.

[Zeuhl]

/Quite good eye witness testimony/

is there any video?

If he 'wasn't the jesus they all knew' - maybe it was David Blaine

[Sqad]

Zeuhl....LOL

[Sqad]

Born in a stable, poor all his life, pinned to a cross........on top of all that I bet he voted Labour.

[Zeuhl]

The Labour Party is working hard to ensure that everyone is born into a stable environment

[tonyav]

.on top of all that I bet he voted Labour.


Of course he did sqad, the righteous always do !.

[keyplus90]

http://quranmalayalam.com/crucifiction/

[wildwood]

As a crucifixion is an execution by definition, he either died or it wasn't a crucifixion.

[douglas9401]

I've heard he lives in all of us.
How does that work with the forthcoming bedroom tax?

[Theland]

No, Jesus did not survive the crucifixion, and the evidence is convincing.
For a start, he was crucified by the Romans, one of the most efficient and ruthless killing machines the world has ever seen. To allow a condemned man to live, would have meant the person responsible being crucified himself. A great management technique to ensure a quality service.
They must have been Tories.

[seekeerz]

Not really buying into this one, but just having read your previous thread, Naomi, I' d be interested in hearing your reasoning to support your claim in this one

[seekeerz]

Btw I believe Jesus dies on the cross and rose on the third day for our redemption - these may be outdated beliefs but I'm happy with them

Have a great Easter what ever you believe.

[mikey4444]

I have never understood why this bloke Jesus managed to rise from the dead and but then proceeded to bugger off upstairs to Heaven, as soon as he could, never to be seen again.

I would have thought he could made much more of an impact touring around the Known World, showing off the holes in his feet and hands. He would have filled every venue, with queues around the block.

Every media organisation would have crawled over broken glass just to get an interview with him.

"Man rose from the dead...read all about it ! "

Max Clifford would murder for a client like that !

My goodness, he could have been the basis for a world-wide cult following
if he really tried !

[anneasquith]

i was not there, but i know a man who was !!!!!!!!!!!

[naomi24]

seekeerz, I don’t know what you mean about my previous thread, but moving on to this one, the best indication we have that Jesus survived is that we know dead men don’t walk and talk. Looking at just a couple of the other clues, death by crucifixion is a slow process – it usually takes days – but even to the astonishment of Pilate, this man ‘died’ in just a few hours. Furthermore, dead bodies don’t bleed. His, allegedly, did.

Peter Pedant, there is no eye witness testimony. His disciples ran away and the women watched from a distance which means they would have heard very little – and bearing in mind the darkness that was supposed to have descended, they wouldn’t have seen much either.

The Romans saw Jesus as a troublemaker - that's why he was sentenced to death - and the Easter story, one of politics and intrigue, is shrouded (no pun intended) in contradictions and mystery. However, it does strike me as rather curious that people are unwilling to consider the rational – which is there if you look - but positively eager to believe the highly unlikely – or dare I say impossible?

Anne, //i was not there, but i know a man who was !!!!!!!!!!! //

No you don't. If you're Christian and you're talking about Jesus, he wouldn't recognise you or your religion. Christianity hadn't been invented in his day. He was never anything but a Jew.