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Colin Stagg
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Should Stagg have received such a large compensation sum? Although Colin Stagg says he feels no sympathy for Barry George, is he any different to him?
Regarding the OTT compensation, he is not on his own.
The officer involved in securing Mr Stagg's confession received �200,000 after it was accepted she should have been given counselling following her 'harrowing and dangerous assignment'.
It took a seven-year legal battle before the youngster, now living abroad with his father, was awarded �90,000 for trauma and loss of the services of a mother.
Do our troops get councelling, after their 'harrowing and dangerous assignments? and do they get paid such high compensations for their injuries?
Should Stagg have received such a large compensation sum? Although Colin Stagg says he feels no sympathy for Barry George, is he any different to him?
Regarding the OTT compensation, he is not on his own.
The officer involved in securing Mr Stagg's confession received �200,000 after it was accepted she should have been given counselling following her 'harrowing and dangerous assignment'.
It took a seven-year legal battle before the youngster, now living abroad with his father, was awarded �90,000 for trauma and loss of the services of a mother.
Do our troops get councelling, after their 'harrowing and dangerous assignments? and do they get paid such high compensations for their injuries?
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Yes, I would say. Having seen past interviews with Stagg, he appears to be somewhat simple and impressionable. The police took advantage of his naivety and desire to impress the Honey trap officer, obviously they desperately wanted a conviction for such a sick and heinous crime.
The reports are widespread and most people would consider the "no smoke without fire" theory. Stagg is now unemployable and has to live with the stigma, that many people still think he's guilty, even if there was no evidence against him.
Hopefully he will use his windfall wisely and not fritter it away down the pub.
The reports are widespread and most people would consider the "no smoke without fire" theory. Stagg is now unemployable and has to live with the stigma, that many people still think he's guilty, even if there was no evidence against him.
Hopefully he will use his windfall wisely and not fritter it away down the pub.
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Should Stagg have received such a large compensation sum? For being locked up for a crime you didn't commit and being portrayed in the media as guilty of this crime due to the police leaking stories - maybe.
is he any different to him? - well he argues that he is not a stalker - ie he was just a 'normal' person walking around who got picked up. Barry George was prosecuted as he was someone that the police would automatically look at with his history of stalking and previous criminal record.
Why do you insist on comparing these types of payouts with the armed services.
If you join the armed services, you are pretty thick if you don't think that you will have an injury of some type or be sent to a war zone.
Pretty different from 'being guilty' of walking on a common and incarcerated for 14 months of your life.
is he any different to him? - well he argues that he is not a stalker - ie he was just a 'normal' person walking around who got picked up. Barry George was prosecuted as he was someone that the police would automatically look at with his history of stalking and previous criminal record.
Why do you insist on comparing these types of payouts with the armed services.
If you join the armed services, you are pretty thick if you don't think that you will have an injury of some type or be sent to a war zone.
Pretty different from 'being guilty' of walking on a common and incarcerated for 14 months of your life.
The �200,000 that the officer received is punitive I'd have thought - ie, it's a figure set to punish the police force rather than compensate the victim.
If an institution like the police is so shoddy in its treatment of employees that it doesn't provide adequate support for them, what is a three grand fine going to achieve? It needs to be sufficiently substantial to hit them where it hurts, sadly. Otherwise they won't learn.
Whether it's right for the officer to receive all of that is another argument.
If an institution like the police is so shoddy in its treatment of employees that it doesn't provide adequate support for them, what is a three grand fine going to achieve? It needs to be sufficiently substantial to hit them where it hurts, sadly. Otherwise they won't learn.
Whether it's right for the officer to receive all of that is another argument.
Oneeyedvic
is he any different to him? - well he argues that he is not a stalker - ie he was just a 'normal' person walking around who got picked up..
Mr Stagg sent her letters fantasising about perverted sex involving knives and bondage.
Mr Stagg - who has a conviction for a minor sex crime -
Just a normal person eh?
Zacsmaster
On the subject of the army, a person joins up knowing that they may be put into a situation where they risk their lives and see things which no man or woman should ever see but it is a calculated risk and one which they take volountairily.
Any difference from the Police Woman in question, but she got a good pay out. Or all other high risk employment, these people also go into these occupations voluntary, but have come away with large compansation pay-outs, why should the armed forces be any different?
If we had conscription or national service and put people into a war situation then I can see the compensation argument being valid.
Plenty were, and they got nothing. How long have the surviving Christmas Island victims, been waiting?
Too many people toss it off at school and have no option than to join up
How dare you belittle our brave lads and lasses in such a way. You, oneeyedvic and all others like you, are insignificant morons compaired to these heroes.
There are plenty of options, they could have chosen, like hanging around our streets, commiting mayhem etc. But still perhaps you can identify yourselves better with this type of person.
is he any different to him? - well he argues that he is not a stalker - ie he was just a 'normal' person walking around who got picked up..
Mr Stagg sent her letters fantasising about perverted sex involving knives and bondage.
Mr Stagg - who has a conviction for a minor sex crime -
Just a normal person eh?
Zacsmaster
On the subject of the army, a person joins up knowing that they may be put into a situation where they risk their lives and see things which no man or woman should ever see but it is a calculated risk and one which they take volountairily.
Any difference from the Police Woman in question, but she got a good pay out. Or all other high risk employment, these people also go into these occupations voluntary, but have come away with large compansation pay-outs, why should the armed forces be any different?
If we had conscription or national service and put people into a war situation then I can see the compensation argument being valid.
Plenty were, and they got nothing. How long have the surviving Christmas Island victims, been waiting?
Too many people toss it off at school and have no option than to join up
How dare you belittle our brave lads and lasses in such a way. You, oneeyedvic and all others like you, are insignificant morons compaired to these heroes.
There are plenty of options, they could have chosen, like hanging around our streets, commiting mayhem etc. But still perhaps you can identify yourselves better with this type of person.
How dare you belittle our brave lads and lasses in such a way. You, oneeyedvic and all others like you, are insignificant morons compaired to these heroes.
now how does that statement compare to this one:
We now seem to live in a society where an increasingly number of people have no feelings, no respect, and no sympathy towards their fellow man. http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question61 0277.html
Pot, Kettle, Black?
now how does that statement compare to this one:
We now seem to live in a society where an increasingly number of people have no feelings, no respect, and no sympathy towards their fellow man. http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question61 0277.html
Pot, Kettle, Black?
AOG
Why are people in the army always referred to as 'our lads and lasses'.
In no other walk of life do people enjoy that sobriquet.
It would be interesting to see how people would react if every member of army personnel received a massive payout for injury/death.
My guess is that the general populace would turn on 'our lads and lasses' the way they did when that naval unit got caught in Iran.
Boy oh boy...the nation did such a sharp u-turn that I'm surprised we didn't all get nose bleeds.
Why are people in the army always referred to as 'our lads and lasses'.
In no other walk of life do people enjoy that sobriquet.
It would be interesting to see how people would react if every member of army personnel received a massive payout for injury/death.
My guess is that the general populace would turn on 'our lads and lasses' the way they did when that naval unit got caught in Iran.
Boy oh boy...the nation did such a sharp u-turn that I'm surprised we didn't all get nose bleeds.
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The 'Our Lads and lasses' reclaimed its wartime popularity when we went to war with the Argentines in 1982.
the Daily Mirror was at the time the biggest selling newspaper - but opposed the war.
The Sun supported the war and called on people to support 'Our lads and lasses' and quickly became the more popular paper - and has stayed the best selling paper since.
the Daily Mirror was at the time the biggest selling newspaper - but opposed the war.
The Sun supported the war and called on people to support 'Our lads and lasses' and quickly became the more popular paper - and has stayed the best selling paper since.
Colin Stagg - deserves ever penny. I don't know how I would cope with
a) being banged up for a crime I didn't commit
b) being basically unemployable as a result
c) having so many people whisper about 'smoke' and 'fire'.
Army personnel - it's a brilliant question...why do civilians get so much more than soldiers/sailors/air force. I suppose it's because postmen, doctors, receptionists etc do not go to war.
We do not engage in inherently dangerous activities.
Dunno though...perhaps it's just another example of how we undervalue the most valuable people in society: nurses, teachers etc.
Think about it. Those who we charge with looking after our sick and teaching our children are paid peanuts. Madness.
a) being banged up for a crime I didn't commit
b) being basically unemployable as a result
c) having so many people whisper about 'smoke' and 'fire'.
Army personnel - it's a brilliant question...why do civilians get so much more than soldiers/sailors/air force. I suppose it's because postmen, doctors, receptionists etc do not go to war.
We do not engage in inherently dangerous activities.
Dunno though...perhaps it's just another example of how we undervalue the most valuable people in society: nurses, teachers etc.
Think about it. Those who we charge with looking after our sick and teaching our children are paid peanuts. Madness.
conscription is no longer in force. Our armed forces are volunteers. If they don't like the pay they can go elsewhere. If people refuse to volunteer because the pay is too low, the authorities will have to raise the pay or go without an army - that's market forces at work.
Stagg was not a volunteer. Unlike George, he seems to have done nothing in particular to attract police attention - I too feel more sympathy for Stagg than for Barry George, though others may disagree.
eyeshade, I don't think the police officer did her job badly. She failed to get a confession from Stagg because he didn't have anything to confess to - hardly her fault. Whether she should have been given such a job in the first place is another matter.
Stagg was not a volunteer. Unlike George, he seems to have done nothing in particular to attract police attention - I too feel more sympathy for Stagg than for Barry George, though others may disagree.
eyeshade, I don't think the police officer did her job badly. She failed to get a confession from Stagg because he didn't have anything to confess to - hardly her fault. Whether she should have been given such a job in the first place is another matter.
Having read some of these posts, let us hope we never have to defend our homeland against an aggressor again.
If we do perhaps then, some of you will be cringing in groups, hoping that ' Our Brave Lads & Lasses ' will be there to protect their pathetic lives of themselves and their families.
If it had not been for those that survived or now lie dead in some foreign field, we would now be under the rule of the Nazis.
If we do perhaps then, some of you will be cringing in groups, hoping that ' Our Brave Lads & Lasses ' will be there to protect their pathetic lives of themselves and their families.
If it had not been for those that survived or now lie dead in some foreign field, we would now be under the rule of the Nazis.
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Move on AOG. What has all you talk about got to do with the compensation paid out to Colin Stagg. As others have said, those that join the forces do so willingly and know what might be expected of them. They have choice.
And how do you know we would be living under Nazi rule. A lot can happen in 60+ years.
And how do you know we would be living under Nazi rule. A lot can happen in 60+ years.
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