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The "no" Vote??

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maggiebee | 14:47 Tue 12th Aug 2014 | ChatterBank
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So granda, remember that referendum back in 2014?
Aye, what aboot it son?
Just curious, what way did you vote granda?
Well, (change in tone) I voted no son.
Really granda, why did you choose to vote no?
Eh, because. .
Because what granda?
Eh. . . Eh. . . because I didn't like that Alex Salmond.
Alex who ?
Alex bloody Salmond, he was the first minister, nobody liked him.
Oh ok, but did he no pass away 10 years ago?
Aye, but still.
But still what granda? surely he wasn't the reason you voted NO, just because you never liked him, there must of been another reason?
Eh......Because your better wi the devil you know son.
But granda, my history teacher says, at the referendum we were £1.6 trillion in debt, there was cutbacks five years in a row and the national debt still went up everyday, the NHS was a shambles and there was food banks all over the country?
Aye that's true but . . . . . . . . . (Stuck for an answer)
So granda, if there was cutbacks for five years in a row, why did the national debt not come down?
Eh, . . . Well Westminster were obviously incompetent and they were building expensive things.
Building things, Like what granda?
Well son, you know that fast train between Birmingham and London you've never been on, they built that, that cost about £17 billion.
But wasn't there a train line there already?
Aye son, but they wanted a faster one.
Doesn't seem right that, especially with all those food banks everywhere, did they build anything else granda?
Well son, you see all those fancy new nuclear weapons near Glasgow?
Aye, what aboot them?
Well, they cost over £30billion to replace, and £3billion a year running costs.
But granda, did Alex Salmond not want to get rid of nuclear weapons?
Aye, he did that.
Did Salmond not promise free child care for mothers wanting to work?
Aye, he did that.
Did he also abolish tuition fees?
Eh.....Aye, he did that.
Was it not him that introduced free subscriptions?
Aye, that was him.
Was it not under his government, we had the council tax freeze?
Aye, that's right.
Ok granda, so what happened to all the food banks?
Well, More and more appeared son.
Gee wizz, did you know all this when you voted NO?
Eh. .....Aye I did son.
So why did you vote NO then?
Well, there was this man on the telly shouting at Salmond saying it was his pound.
But granda, did that man, the prime minister and that chancellor not say only 12 months before the referendum, that it was 'desirable and logical' that we should all use the pound?
Aye son, they did, but they changed their minds nearer the time as they were obviously wanting us to vote NO.
Did they not also say that Scotland was subsidised by the UK, so why were they so desperate for Scotland to stay in the UK?
Well, they never really answered that one son.
But granda, did you know that in many years up to the referendum Scotland was raising more revenue per head of population than the rest of the UK?
Aye, a knew that too.
I still don't understand granda, why would you vote NO?
Well another man on the TV said there would be men with machine guns at the border.
But granda, there are no men with machine guns or any other men at the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland.
Aye, I knew that as well.
Granda, I really don't understand why you voted NO?
Well son. . .all the English politicians and media said it was for the best.
But how could it be for the best granda, could you not see through the bluff and scaremongering? Did you not want change?
Aye son, everybody did, but I was scared of change.
So what happened in the years after the NO vote?
(Big sigh). . . . We'll talk aboot that another night son.
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Facebook = Some people in the pub :)
15:42 Tue 12th Aug 2014
So granpa - you voted 'yes' in the vote that lead to Scotland becoming an impoverished pseudo-country on the edge of the euro-zone.

Did you not see that the Germans would be 100 times worse at telling us what to do than our (very prosperous) friends across the border?

Did you not see that once Mr Salmond and his ilk had peed all our oil revenue up the wall, by frittering it away on ego-tripping nonsense, we'd be skint forever?

Ah well - it seems to be time for your nap - I'll wheel you outside, so you can gaze at the industrial wasteland left when the rest of the UK realised they didn't need to bankroll us any more ......
What he said.
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Nice one SD - good to see that someone at least read it!
do you think i'll need a visa and my passport to come and visit?
Maggie There is so much truth in what you have said.
what sort of charge will the uni's make to English wishing to study in scotland?

will scots not eligible to vote (those not living in Scotland) need to use their passports to come and visit?

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Don't think so Lady J. we are a very hospitable nation.
Toooooo long to read ;-)
Hi Maggie,

Where did you get that? Is that circulating via email north of the border? I'd be interested if it was generated by a single pressure group or just some people in the pub.

I'd be offended if that kind of emotional blackmail was supposed to convince me :)

Facebook I assume
Especially as it's selective and misleading bilge.
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This was posted on Facebook Ab Editor. Not attributed to anyone in particular.
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Notice the most vociferous posts are from those who don't even have a vote!
Seems to originate from a Facebook page called 'Yes Scotland'
I have a vote, maggie.
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Hope you use it wisely jim360.
oh, so not biased then?
I'm not vociferous - just have a point of view (if not a vote) :+)

Actually, in some ways, I can't lose - emotionally I'd like to see Scotland within the UK and I do fear for its future if it secedes from the union.

But, from a purely economic point of view, I suspect that the rest of the UK will become more prosperous after secession, as the 'special treatment' for Scotland is unwound.
"Notice the most vociferous posts are from those who don't even have a vote!"

Well, yes, it's one of things you'd be grumpy about if you didn't have one.

I am sure Scotland will get the change it deserves.
What year is this set in and are the pandas still breeding well?

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