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Cameron Responds
He's still happy with having called the referendum (but doesn't comment on his U-turn about staying on).
Is he seeking a return to the top job perhaps? Well he says he supports May, but has given ample evidence that he's not a man of his word.
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Is he seeking a return to the top job perhaps? Well he says he supports May, but has given ample evidence that he's not a man of his word.
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"why did he do a runner, he left when he should have stayed to see this through."
I sort of agree, but on the other hand he was a remainer and would not have had his jeart in it at best and at worst behaved like Dictator May.
"but has given ample evidence that he's not a man of his word. "
Excepting of course that he did keep his word when he gave the referendum. Probably a great call for democracy.
I sort of agree, but on the other hand he was a remainer and would not have had his jeart in it at best and at worst behaved like Dictator May.
"but has given ample evidence that he's not a man of his word. "
Excepting of course that he did keep his word when he gave the referendum. Probably a great call for democracy.
He had to hold a referendum.
He promised one and delivered on it.
The fact that the result of it is an almight abortion is no this fault.
It’s our fault.
Sometimes, when you have millions of people voting for something - we have no idea of knowing what the impact might be.
Like when Michelle McManus won the X Factor.
He promised one and delivered on it.
The fact that the result of it is an almight abortion is no this fault.
It’s our fault.
Sometimes, when you have millions of people voting for something - we have no idea of knowing what the impact might be.
Like when Michelle McManus won the X Factor.
“The fact that the result of it is an almight abortion is no this fault.
It’s our fault.
Sometimes, when you have millions of people voting for something - we have no idea of knowing what the impact might be.”
No it is not the fault of the electorate.
The fault for the current shambles lies fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the UK’s “negotiators” and more specifically on those of Mrs May (who seems to have secured the “deal” without sharing its details with even the so-called Secretary of State for Exiting the EU - whoever that was at the time). As I said in another thread, the Commons voted to provide the referendum, they voted (5-1) to invoke A50 and in the meantime a General Election saw 80% of votes cast for parties pledged to deliver Brexit. Politicians had plenty of opportunities to demonstrate to the electorate that Brexit was not a good idea and would not be countenanced.
The UK is – and always will be – decidedly split on the issue of EU membership. The government of the day decided that the question was too constitutionally important for the Commons to decide and so it was put to the people. The consequences of a vote to leave were made abundantly clear to them (some might say over-abundantly because few of the threats prophesied to occur immediately following a “leave” vote have materialised). It was made quite clear that leaving would mean leaving the Single Market and the Customs Union. Nonetheless, a Leave vote prevailed.
The reason the current situation has arisen is because the notion of “leaving” was never on Mrs May’s agenda. She always had in mind staying as closely aligned to the EU as she could possibly get away with. The EU knew this and the result is their “agreement” which leaves the UK effectively split in two unless and until the EU says otherwise. The electorate knew exactly what it wanted when it voted to leave – it’s written on the tin. What they did not vote for is a “deal” which splits their country in two and which leaves them with virtually none of the benefits that being a “normal” nation brings.
So please, don’t blame the electorate for making a choice they were given the opportunity to make and which they were promised would be implemented. Blame the politicians who have failed spectacularly to capitalise on the instructions and mandate they were given by the electorate, choosing instead to paint the nation into corner by effectively tieing the UK to EU membership in all but name.
It’s our fault.
Sometimes, when you have millions of people voting for something - we have no idea of knowing what the impact might be.”
No it is not the fault of the electorate.
The fault for the current shambles lies fairly and squarely on the shoulders of the UK’s “negotiators” and more specifically on those of Mrs May (who seems to have secured the “deal” without sharing its details with even the so-called Secretary of State for Exiting the EU - whoever that was at the time). As I said in another thread, the Commons voted to provide the referendum, they voted (5-1) to invoke A50 and in the meantime a General Election saw 80% of votes cast for parties pledged to deliver Brexit. Politicians had plenty of opportunities to demonstrate to the electorate that Brexit was not a good idea and would not be countenanced.
The UK is – and always will be – decidedly split on the issue of EU membership. The government of the day decided that the question was too constitutionally important for the Commons to decide and so it was put to the people. The consequences of a vote to leave were made abundantly clear to them (some might say over-abundantly because few of the threats prophesied to occur immediately following a “leave” vote have materialised). It was made quite clear that leaving would mean leaving the Single Market and the Customs Union. Nonetheless, a Leave vote prevailed.
The reason the current situation has arisen is because the notion of “leaving” was never on Mrs May’s agenda. She always had in mind staying as closely aligned to the EU as she could possibly get away with. The EU knew this and the result is their “agreement” which leaves the UK effectively split in two unless and until the EU says otherwise. The electorate knew exactly what it wanted when it voted to leave – it’s written on the tin. What they did not vote for is a “deal” which splits their country in two and which leaves them with virtually none of the benefits that being a “normal” nation brings.
So please, don’t blame the electorate for making a choice they were given the opportunity to make and which they were promised would be implemented. Blame the politicians who have failed spectacularly to capitalise on the instructions and mandate they were given by the electorate, choosing instead to paint the nation into corner by effectively tieing the UK to EU membership in all but name.
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