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Why Is This Bloke On Trial?
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this "non violent person" - went burglarising with a weapon, and got offed, result for us all if you ask me.
this "non violent person" - went burglarising with a weapon, and got offed, result for us all if you ask me.
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If you break into someone's house armed with a screwdriver and they pick up a knife, you're probably in danger of getting stabbed. Personally I minimise the risk of getting into a situation like that by not breaking into people's houses.
15:22 Thu 02nd May 2019
"And yet the dead bloke's sister is defending him..."
What you've forgotten, Tora, is that the gentlemen concerned was a member of a certain "community" where such behaviour is commonplace. She no doubt takes the view that her boyfriend was killed in a workplace accident.
What is also overlooked is that Mr Osborn-Brooks and his wife had their lives devastated by this incident. They lived in a comfortable house and, at 79, had probably planned to spend the rest of their days there. Instead, because of the activities of Mr Vincent's friends and relatives (they set up a "shrine" to their loved one just a few yards from the Osborn-Brooks's house) and the threats they made to the victim of the burglary, they were forced to move, effectively into hiding. Mr Osborn-Brooks had no say in these events and his life has been thrown into turmoil. Mr Vincent certainly did have a choice but one that thankfully he will not be called upon to make again.
What you've forgotten, Tora, is that the gentlemen concerned was a member of a certain "community" where such behaviour is commonplace. She no doubt takes the view that her boyfriend was killed in a workplace accident.
What is also overlooked is that Mr Osborn-Brooks and his wife had their lives devastated by this incident. They lived in a comfortable house and, at 79, had probably planned to spend the rest of their days there. Instead, because of the activities of Mr Vincent's friends and relatives (they set up a "shrine" to their loved one just a few yards from the Osborn-Brooks's house) and the threats they made to the victim of the burglary, they were forced to move, effectively into hiding. Mr Osborn-Brooks had no say in these events and his life has been thrown into turmoil. Mr Vincent certainly did have a choice but one that thankfully he will not be called upon to make again.
We're talking about murder. Of course there is a trial.
Else, people could murder people willy nilly, then set it up like it was a burglary.
It is not legal in the UK to kill people for trespassing or breaking and entering = Court Trial. This is a non question if you ask me, but i understand it for discussion purposes.
Else, people could murder people willy nilly, then set it up like it was a burglary.
It is not legal in the UK to kill people for trespassing or breaking and entering = Court Trial. This is a non question if you ask me, but i understand it for discussion purposes.
"We're talking about murder."
No we're not. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
No doubt the Pi...sorry, ahem, Travellers, will now form a braying mob at the lawful killing decision, because apparently (according to them when it happened) he was a lovely bloke.
These people have no redeeming features - they are detritus.
It's most unlike jno to take a contrary point of view just for the sake of it even when he surely must know he's talking total cack.
No we're not. Where on earth did you get that idea from?
No doubt the Pi...sorry, ahem, Travellers, will now form a braying mob at the lawful killing decision, because apparently (according to them when it happened) he was a lovely bloke.
These people have no redeeming features - they are detritus.
It's most unlike jno to take a contrary point of view just for the sake of it even when he surely must know he's talking total cack.
"OK.. we're talking about death. Of course it's going to be looked deeply into."
The CPS decided within two days (very rapidly by their standards) that Mr Osborn-Brooks would face no criminal charges. The inquest was to establish the circumstances of Mr Vincent's death. It was held without a jury, meaning a senior coroner decided that a high level of public scrutiny (above that afforded my a normal inquest) was unnecessary.
"It is not legal in the UK to kill people for trespassing or breaking and entering"
It is in certain circumstances, such as those that prevailed here (i.e. a drug addict, high on some substance or other, breaking into your house and coming at you with a screwdriver). You are not obliged to stand by whilst he plunders your belongings and stabs you on the way out.
The CPS decided within two days (very rapidly by their standards) that Mr Osborn-Brooks would face no criminal charges. The inquest was to establish the circumstances of Mr Vincent's death. It was held without a jury, meaning a senior coroner decided that a high level of public scrutiny (above that afforded my a normal inquest) was unnecessary.
"It is not legal in the UK to kill people for trespassing or breaking and entering"
It is in certain circumstances, such as those that prevailed here (i.e. a drug addict, high on some substance or other, breaking into your house and coming at you with a screwdriver). You are not obliged to stand by whilst he plunders your belongings and stabs you on the way out.
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