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I am stuck trying to find details of my great-great-grandparents.
The only census I can find any mention of them together as a family is in the 1871 census when they are in York.......details as follows.
Daniel Lawler born c1829 Birmingham Shoemaker (my gggrandad who died in 1876)
Ann his wife born in Belfast (I can't tell from the 1871 census if she was 36 or 30 on the original transcript) On their daughter Ann's birth certificate she is shown as Ann Savage formerly known as Ryan.
Also on the census is Mary Lawler born c1861 in Newcastle, James Lawler born c1867 in Newcastle., and Annie Lawler (my great-grandma) born 1869 in York.
I cannot find any trace of them before 1871 including birth or marriage records, but think Ann may have been married before (hence the 2 names) and given the gap in the children's ages Mary, or indeed James, may not have been Daniel's child.
Daniel died in York in 1876 and I cannot find any trace of his widow or children on the 1881 census, my great-grandma only shows in the 1891 census after she had married my great-grandad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I have looked at this so many times I'm completely lost.
The only census I can find any mention of them together as a family is in the 1871 census when they are in York.......details as follows.
Daniel Lawler born c1829 Birmingham Shoemaker (my gggrandad who died in 1876)
Ann his wife born in Belfast (I can't tell from the 1871 census if she was 36 or 30 on the original transcript) On their daughter Ann's birth certificate she is shown as Ann Savage formerly known as Ryan.
Also on the census is Mary Lawler born c1861 in Newcastle, James Lawler born c1867 in Newcastle., and Annie Lawler (my great-grandma) born 1869 in York.
I cannot find any trace of them before 1871 including birth or marriage records, but think Ann may have been married before (hence the 2 names) and given the gap in the children's ages Mary, or indeed James, may not have been Daniel's child.
Daniel died in York in 1876 and I cannot find any trace of his widow or children on the 1881 census, my great-grandma only shows in the 1891 census after she had married my great-grandad.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I have looked at this so many times I'm completely lost.
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I think I;ve found Daniel Lawler on the 1851 census.
He's the right age 22, a shoemaker and the enumerator has abbreviated his birth place and the transcriber I think has transcribed it wrongly, look at HO 107 2211 folio 476. it is the 1851 for Great Bolton, search on ancestry or jane boyle born 1796 Ireland to be quicker
I think that birthplace is Kings Cross Birmingham
He's the right age 22, a shoemaker and the enumerator has abbreviated his birth place and the transcriber I think has transcribed it wrongly, look at HO 107 2211 folio 476. it is the 1851 for Great Bolton, search on ancestry or jane boyle born 1796 Ireland to be quicker
I think that birthplace is Kings Cross Birmingham
No probs, I'm off all next week and so going to get pretty intense with bit for a few days. I;ve just had 2 certificates tghrough, death of my great grandad and great great great grandad and it's cost the £9.25 each but i expected it to take ages cos o the bank holiday, but i only ordered them saturday last and they came today!
Hi 4745 is the piece number craft, anyway i've found them on ancestry, but they have been transcribed as lawter, I'll let you alter it!!! I think ann's age is 30 as i you look lower down the enumerators sixes have a very tall curved arc. so it's RG 4745 , ED 21 All saints pavement, folio 87, schedule 13.
