There is an answer.

[TWR]

The Government are discussing young drivers not carrying passengers at night time unless family, "Re/Road deaths with young drivers) there is a simple answer to this problem, the car is registered to that person, the DVLA knows the person's age, before that person Begin's to drive the car, the car has to be taken to a VAT / dealer's garage, & fitted with a sealed speed limiter, the owner has to take the car back to that garage for inspection every month to check that the seal has not been tampered with, the age of getting your license to be increased to 18, if ANY speeding offences within the first year of driving they loose their right to drive, this will reduce the amount of deaths with the young know it all drivers. all negative answers welcomed.

[bibblebub]

no

[2sp_]

I think there should be a restriction in the size of engine/power of car you can drive in the first, say, 2 years of driving. This could be done by the insurance companies.

[Mick-Talbot]

Utter nonsense .........negative enough?

[TWR]

Can you think of anything better Mick?

[ChuckFickens]

And how much would this all cost and who's going to pay for it?

And that ignoring the technicalities of how do you design a speed limiter that would work with every single make and model of car ever made?

[vulcan]

TWR,that seems like a good idea but like some other good ideas it takes place after the person has passed the driving test and I think this is where the problem really lies, the test is still far too easy to pass. Isn't it about time the potential driver learnt to drive at night, on motorways, on skid pads and above 30 miles eventually?
The driving part of the test at the moment consists of daylight driving on a route that the examiner has taken them on and at 30 mph. This is not sufficient training for today's road conditions.
After retiring I lost contact with the transport industry but I remember when the speed limiters were first fitted to HGV's, the drivers quickly found out that removing a certain fuse negated the system. I assume this loophole has been dealt with, has it, do you know?

[Mick-Talbot]

Can you think of anything better Mick?


Leave it as it is?

[TWR]

Do you put costs before lives chuck? the cost is met by the person that owns the car, every HGV has limiters fitted & there are very many different makes on the road, Yes Vulcan, it was possible to remove the fuse, that's if you were that stupid enough to disable something that was there to protect you. No with Taco's every detail is recorded & the fines run into thousands, any driver in right mind would be stupid to try. So I take it from your answer Mick, you would not look at any other way to save these young Idiots life's?

[paddywak]

Some cars come fitted with an optional speed limiter as standard the Ford Focus Titanium for instance, and I use it quite often especially on roads where average speed cameras are in use. The technology is there it's just a matter of finding a proper way to use it.

[Baldric]

For 'Young Idiots' read Organ Donors, they perform a useful function!

[Dee Sa]

good idea but wont work, the "young ones" will simply forget to go, police wont have manpower to enforce it, they cant even enforce the no mobile whilst driving, where I live every other person is still talking into their mobile as they drive along and nobody stops them.

[Hopkirk]

My son drives my car occasionally.

By your system, if I speed he would lose his licence.

Also I would have to have a limiter on my car. No thanks.

[bednobs]

yes, that is a problem - you can't put a limiter into every car the young person might drive. When i passed my test, for the first year or so i drove my dad's car

[mccfluff]

i do think you should have a minimum number of hours you have to put in learning before you pass. it should also be mandatory that your lessons include night driving and after you pass there should be at least one lesson on motorway driving.

[TWR]

I dont think you will find the young person driving their parents car like they would if it were their own Bednobs, what I am saying is WHEN they have a car of their own.

[percypineapple]

you know those green L plates that you see on cars, to show someone has just passed, usually nervous people put them on the car until they get some confidence, well, make it mandatory that anyone under 21, after they pass their test, any car they drive must have these plates, and the driver must have no passengers in the car. 2 years period, then they might get some road sense. Tough I know, but might save some lives, as something has to be done.

[Graham-W]

Speed limiters shouldn't be too hard to set up. Link the ECU to a Sat-Nav and the speed limit changes for town, country and motorway.

[Hopkirk]

My Garmin satnav shows the speed limit for the road I am on, but it is often wrong Graham.

Surprisingly the North Circular Road in London is where the speed limit is often wrong.

[spotit3]

Over here, once you pass your driving test you must have 'R' plates on your car for a year and supposedly younarevrestricted to 40 mph. 'R' means Restricted.

[pdq1]

Forget about young drivers. Concentrate on older drivers who have lost their marbles. Ring a bell TWR?