World Cup 2022 Death Toll

[Hypognosis]

382 construction workers dead in two years.

185 this year alone

(See front page of today's Guardian)

Would you care to express your shock and surprise here?

[Sqad]

Sorry Hypo......no shock or horror from me.....Brazil is another world away and i don't know any of the dead.

Over 100,000 died in constructing the Panama Canal and i feel the same about those.

[237SJ]

Wait until you see the mugging statistics when the time comes.

[Sqad]

237SJ.....LOL

Hypo...I think that the UK averages about 200 industrial deaths per annum.

[rockyracoon]

Isn't the 2022 World Cup in Qatar?

The whole thing has been a monumental cockup.

[Sqad]

rocky......it is.......thanks.......;-)

[237SJ]

Whoops thought you meant Brasil as well (I`m blaming Sqad) as I know eff all about football.

[sandyRoe]

What about the proposed Middle East World Cup? Will the intense heat and restrictions on the availability of liquid refreshments, this being held in an Islamic country, present hazards for the fans?

[237SJ]

Depends which time of year it is. You can drink in Qatar but only in the hotels.

[mushroom25]

uk accident statistics here
http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/fatals.htm

[Sqad]

mushroom....thank you.

237SJ.......be reassured, that come 2022, alcohol will be widely available in Qatar.

[ToraToraTora]

I am shocked by the death toll and also shocked that this kazi has been given the tournement in the first place.

[Baldric]

I assume this is football, in which case . . . . . . . . zzzzzzzzzzz!

[Hypognosis]

The difference with the UK statistics is that it refers to all sites. The Grauniad article is only referring to sites connected with the world cup. (Perhaps it's hard to distinguish between a hotel dedicated to WC fans and general growth of the nation's infrastructure, just now)

There's been manic building activity all across the gulf states for the past decade though. Run Google Earth and use the 'historical imagery' function to see how fast it's all growing (Dubai, Abu Dhabi, all those artificial islands).

Sensible strategy to try and get a tourism industry up and running before the US gets energy independence and cuts off their main source of income. ;-)


As for Brazil? I'm not attempting to keep track but it's only a handful and they've been underway for 4 years longer. Higher standards there, clearly. (Compared to us, they make whole airliners, not just the wings...) :-/

[DTCwordfan]

That's just for the Nepalese, Hypo.....

In short, the Qataris don't give a ***. Best thing that FIFA could do is swap it out but they are too chicken to do that and, most likely, there is too much corruption involved.

Think Brazil is standing at 36 so far......

[Hypognosis]

@Sqad

any thoughts on sudden cardiac death syndrome. Apparently migrant workers are particularly prone to this, worldwide.

Usually, the country of origin makes no difference to the risk but I'm wondering whether switching from living at high elevation, in Nepal, down to somewhere near sea level has anything to do with this syndrome? Thickened blood from living at altitude?

@DTC

I don't understand why the article would single out the stat solely for Nepalese workers, whereas an all-nations figure would have made more sense, plus a larger, even more shocking figure.

Have found an article link now

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/24/qatar-2022-world-cup-185-nepalese-workers-died-2013

[Hypognosis]

Gulp. They're still working on the figures for workers from other countries...

"The Nepalese make up about a sixth of Qatar's 2 million-strong population of migrant workers. Verified figures for the 2013 death rates among those from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and elsewhere have yet to emerge."

Well spotted, DTC

[jno]

that "185 this year" had me gawping; it was last year.

[Sqad]

Hypo

\\\\Usually, the country of origin makes no difference to the risk but I'm wondering whether switching from living at high elevation, in Nepal, down to somewhere near sea level has anything to do with this syndrome? Thickened blood from living at altitude? \\\

I can't think of a better reason......