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Why Was This Outfit Considered Inappropriate On World Book Day?
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Personally I think the young man sets a dashing figure, and once upon a time most schoolboys dressed this way for school, except for the long pants.
Personally I think the young man sets a dashing figure, and once upon a time most schoolboys dressed this way for school, except for the long pants.
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AOG - he is not dressed as a 'dashing figure' in the way that most boys dressed for school.
He is dressed as the character in an adult sado-masochstic novel. It is not his suit that is the issue - it is the cable ties and mask he is carrying as 'accessories' that make his costume identifiable specifically as a character from an adult novel, and as such, his costume is inappropriate.
Where do we draw the line?
If a child turns up as a character from 'Lord Of The Flies', with a papier mache head on a stake - would that be 'a bit of a laugh'?.
The child (and remember he is a child)'s mother passes the incident off as 'a bit of a laugh' - the usual catchall for any offensive behaviour, which is to accuse people who are offended by it as being lacking in a sense of humour.
I am with the school - the outfit was inappropriate and the mother should be castigated for either - sending her child dressed as a character he does not understand, or for sending her child dressed as a character which he does understand - both of which are not acceptable.
He is dressed as the character in an adult sado-masochstic novel. It is not his suit that is the issue - it is the cable ties and mask he is carrying as 'accessories' that make his costume identifiable specifically as a character from an adult novel, and as such, his costume is inappropriate.
Where do we draw the line?
If a child turns up as a character from 'Lord Of The Flies', with a papier mache head on a stake - would that be 'a bit of a laugh'?.
The child (and remember he is a child)'s mother passes the incident off as 'a bit of a laugh' - the usual catchall for any offensive behaviour, which is to accuse people who are offended by it as being lacking in a sense of humour.
I am with the school - the outfit was inappropriate and the mother should be castigated for either - sending her child dressed as a character he does not understand, or for sending her child dressed as a character which he does understand - both of which are not acceptable.
I hold my hands up, I did not take into account the mask and cable ties, I was just going on the suit, shirt, and tie.
If he did display the mask and cable ties at school, then yes in those circumstances the school were right to exclude him from lessons.
But I think a more amiable action would have been to just have confiscated the said two items.
If he did display the mask and cable ties at school, then yes in those circumstances the school were right to exclude him from lessons.
But I think a more amiable action would have been to just have confiscated the said two items.
AOG - //I hold my hands up, I did not take into account the mask and cable ties, I was just going on the suit, shirt, and tie.
If he did display the mask and cable ties at school, then yes in those circumstances the school were right to exclude him from lessons.
But I think a more amiable action would have been to just have confiscated the said two items. //
Your honesty is to be applauded AOG, but I still think the school acted appropriately - there has to be a line drawn, and although it would be ideal to think that parents are mature and responsible enough to know where the line is, in some cases, and this is one of them, their own desire to be noticed and thought of as some kind of humourist outweighs their primary concern which should be the happiness of their child.
If he did display the mask and cable ties at school, then yes in those circumstances the school were right to exclude him from lessons.
But I think a more amiable action would have been to just have confiscated the said two items. //
Your honesty is to be applauded AOG, but I still think the school acted appropriately - there has to be a line drawn, and although it would be ideal to think that parents are mature and responsible enough to know where the line is, in some cases, and this is one of them, their own desire to be noticed and thought of as some kind of humourist outweighs their primary concern which should be the happiness of their child.
jim360 - // But why is it so much better to be dressed as James Bond? Who also had plenty of unusual dalliances, and for that matter killed people. //
Because James Bond is entirely obviously a fictional character - his violence is largely at cartoon level, although his films are age-appropriate on release, and his sex is entirely unseen in any film.
So, not really a valid comparison is it.
Because James Bond is entirely obviously a fictional character - his violence is largely at cartoon level, although his films are age-appropriate on release, and his sex is entirely unseen in any film.
So, not really a valid comparison is it.
jim360 - //Isn't Christian Grey also a fictional character? Anyway, I can't say I'm all that fussed like I said earlier. I am a bit puzzled why one is OK and the other is not. //
One is a fictional spy in a series of adult novels which have been turned into films which can be viewed by older children.
One is a fictional sado-masochist in a series of adult novels which have been turned into films that are catagorised as adult viewing only.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
One is a fictional spy in a series of adult novels which have been turned into films which can be viewed by older children.
One is a fictional sado-masochist in a series of adult novels which have been turned into films that are catagorised as adult viewing only.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
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I'd have thought that what is found acceptable is judged by what adults are most uncomfortable with. To be fair, Christian Grey is entirely associated with sex, and BDSM at that, that many adults just aren't comfortable with. The less-than-savoury attributes of Bond are more easily overlooked.
It is inconsistent, in my opinion, but never mind.
It is inconsistent, in my opinion, but never mind.
jim360 - "I'd have thought that what is found acceptable is judged by what adults are most uncomfortable with. To be fair, Christian Grey is entirely associated with sex, and BDSM at that, that many adults just aren't comfortable with. The less-than-savoury attributes of Bond are more easily overlooked.
It is inconsistent, in my opinion, but never mind."
I don't think it is inconsistent.
If a child turned up as James Bond carrying a handful of condoms, you'd have to agree that he was 'in character', but that it was inappropriate.
So sending a child with a mask and cable ties is inappropriate.
It is inconsistent, in my opinion, but never mind."
I don't think it is inconsistent.
If a child turned up as James Bond carrying a handful of condoms, you'd have to agree that he was 'in character', but that it was inappropriate.
So sending a child with a mask and cable ties is inappropriate.
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