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Frightening, Sickening, But The Politicians Across Europe Are The Ones Responsible For This.
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What can be done before all this becomes out of control?
What can be done before all this becomes out of control?
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I can't argue that the migrant situation has utterly run away with all the governments involved - but I still wouldn't give an inch of print room to these self-satisfied bone-headed fascist idiots.
One of them laughingly says 'It's hard to be the good guys when you look like the bad guys.'
Yet they dress identically in their thug uniforms and strut around mob handed with their self-righteous racism plastered over their unsmiling faces like masks to be worn with the pride of their ignorance.
Minority groups like this exist all over the world - if it was not migrants it would be dole scroungers, or people who let their dogs foul the pavement - the reason for their behaviour is trumped every time by their pathetic insecurity and desperate need to belong to something, and to feel that they are 'needed' by the society they live in.
The truth is, they are as 'needed' and welcome as dysentery on a coach holiday.
They will spend their free time looking for trouble, and creating it if they can't find it, and puff themselves up fit to burst with their all-encpasing
One of them laughingly says 'It's hard to be the good guys when you look like the bad guys.'
Yet they dress identically in their thug uniforms and strut around mob handed with their self-righteous racism plastered over their unsmiling faces like masks to be worn with the pride of their ignorance.
Minority groups like this exist all over the world - if it was not migrants it would be dole scroungers, or people who let their dogs foul the pavement - the reason for their behaviour is trumped every time by their pathetic insecurity and desperate need to belong to something, and to feel that they are 'needed' by the society they live in.
The truth is, they are as 'needed' and welcome as dysentery on a coach holiday.
They will spend their free time looking for trouble, and creating it if they can't find it, and puff themselves up fit to burst with their all-encpasing
... encompassing self-regard which is as repellent as their nasty small-minded racist dogma.
We should ignore them, for the insignificance that they are, and rely on wider society to police itself legally, without recourse to these self-appointed idiots with their hateful imagery and non-changing violence.
If anything is to be done with the migrant situation - and no-one would deny that something must, and soon, it should never in its wildest dreams encompass this group of Neanderthals, or others like them anywhere in the civilised world.
We should ignore them, for the insignificance that they are, and rely on wider society to police itself legally, without recourse to these self-appointed idiots with their hateful imagery and non-changing violence.
If anything is to be done with the migrant situation - and no-one would deny that something must, and soon, it should never in its wildest dreams encompass this group of Neanderthals, or others like them anywhere in the civilised world.
Rather Ironic that name.
Hundreds of years ago the Sons of Odin were invading countries and raping and murdering the populace. Now the tables have turned and they are protecting their woman from invaders who are raping and burning alive their victims.
Should of stuck with Guardian Angels or Neighbourhood Watch.
Thus far even the police can't pin any charges on them!! No crime. No story. Every country in Europe has fascist neo-nazi groups.
Hundreds of years ago the Sons of Odin were invading countries and raping and murdering the populace. Now the tables have turned and they are protecting their woman from invaders who are raping and burning alive their victims.
Should of stuck with Guardian Angels or Neighbourhood Watch.
Thus far even the police can't pin any charges on them!! No crime. No story. Every country in Europe has fascist neo-nazi groups.
retrocop - //Now the tables have turned and they are protecting their woman from invaders who are raping and burning alive their victims. //
Use of such flowery decriptions only ads to the nonsense these morons believe.
They would love to see themselves as ancient protectors of their lands and their women and children from marauding invaders.
But this is 2016, and what we have is a seriously badly-managed escalating migrant crisis - there is no room in the world for this backwards-looking pointless racist self-aggrandisement practiced by this tiny minority of lost little boys in big thuggish men's' bodies
Use of such flowery decriptions only ads to the nonsense these morons believe.
They would love to see themselves as ancient protectors of their lands and their women and children from marauding invaders.
But this is 2016, and what we have is a seriously badly-managed escalating migrant crisis - there is no room in the world for this backwards-looking pointless racist self-aggrandisement practiced by this tiny minority of lost little boys in big thuggish men's' bodies
andy-hughes
/// We should ignore them, for the insignificance that they are, and rely on wider society to police itself legally, without recourse to these self-appointed idiots with their hateful imagery and non-changing violence. ///
Yes but it does not seem that wider society is policing themselves, hence the rise across Europe of these kind of groups.
And while it is getting less safe for our women to walk freely upon our streets, surely we must rely on these types of thugs.
One has to ask what is the lesser evil, women being raped on the streets or having groups such as these dissuading such attacks?
/// We should ignore them, for the insignificance that they are, and rely on wider society to police itself legally, without recourse to these self-appointed idiots with their hateful imagery and non-changing violence. ///
Yes but it does not seem that wider society is policing themselves, hence the rise across Europe of these kind of groups.
And while it is getting less safe for our women to walk freely upon our streets, surely we must rely on these types of thugs.
One has to ask what is the lesser evil, women being raped on the streets or having groups such as these dissuading such attacks?
Strange, but a couple of months ago when I suggested something like this would kick off, I was 'sneered at' by some on here who said it could never happen.
In no way am I a supporter of this sort of action, but I do 'get' the motivation behind it, especially with the apparent lack of visible action by Governments Europewide.
AOG - //And while it is getting less safe for our women to walk freely upon our streets, surely we must rely on these types of thugs.
One has to ask what is the lesser evil, women being raped on the streets or having groups such as these dissuading such attacks? //
I entirely understand that useless immigration policies combined with inadequate policing resources means that groups like this proliferate, but I would never ever condone their formation or their actions.
I will never see this as an issue of 'the lesser of two evils' - I would rather see any government concentrating its resources on combating the original evil - and some migrants' behaviour is exactly that - rather than permitting another evil to walk the streets because it may possibly be seen as the lesser of the two evils.
Two evils is always two evils - and given full reign, the lesser will become the greater in no time at all.
One has to ask what is the lesser evil, women being raped on the streets or having groups such as these dissuading such attacks? //
I entirely understand that useless immigration policies combined with inadequate policing resources means that groups like this proliferate, but I would never ever condone their formation or their actions.
I will never see this as an issue of 'the lesser of two evils' - I would rather see any government concentrating its resources on combating the original evil - and some migrants' behaviour is exactly that - rather than permitting another evil to walk the streets because it may possibly be seen as the lesser of the two evils.
Two evils is always two evils - and given full reign, the lesser will become the greater in no time at all.
andy-hughes
/// I will never see this as an issue of 'the lesser of two evils' - I would rather see any government concentrating its resources on combating the original evil - and some migrants' behaviour is exactly that - rather than permitting another evil to walk the streets because it may possibly be seen as the lesser of the two evils. ///
And wouldn't we all, but you are venturing as usual into your utopian world, they may be two evils, but given the choice (and we have no other option at the moment) I know which one I would opt for.
When facing a common enemy or an unsatisfactory situation, one cannot always choose one's fellow combatants.
/// I will never see this as an issue of 'the lesser of two evils' - I would rather see any government concentrating its resources on combating the original evil - and some migrants' behaviour is exactly that - rather than permitting another evil to walk the streets because it may possibly be seen as the lesser of the two evils. ///
And wouldn't we all, but you are venturing as usual into your utopian world, they may be two evils, but given the choice (and we have no other option at the moment) I know which one I would opt for.
When facing a common enemy or an unsatisfactory situation, one cannot always choose one's fellow combatants.
Laudable though their attempts at protecting 'their women' may seem, these gangs of puffed-up blokes wanting to play at soldiers usually devolve into being just as intimidating and violent as those groups they profess to be reacting against.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is......but I doubt if it is 'The sons of Odin'.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is......but I doubt if it is 'The sons of Odin'.
AOG - //And wouldn't we all, but you are venturing as usual into your utopian world, they may be two evils, but given the choice (and we have no other option at the moment) I know which one I would opt for.
When facing a common enemy or an unsatisfactory situation, one cannot always choose one's fellow combatants. //
I freely admit that my world view is utopian, but the only way to make my (I believe - better world view) become a reality, is to strive towards it, rather than taking the approach that this evil is with us, so we might as well use it to our advantage.
My concern is that, if allowed to proliferate, this avowed intention to 'look after' the populace would very soon morph into taking extreme control, and we would have the 'dog weeing / execution' scenario I always quote in this type of debate.
I am not so unrealistic as to see that what you say is true - there is a rise in 'public policing' but that does not mean I will ever accept that is a necessary evil - with the accent on the 'evil'.
When facing a common enemy or an unsatisfactory situation, one cannot always choose one's fellow combatants. //
I freely admit that my world view is utopian, but the only way to make my (I believe - better world view) become a reality, is to strive towards it, rather than taking the approach that this evil is with us, so we might as well use it to our advantage.
My concern is that, if allowed to proliferate, this avowed intention to 'look after' the populace would very soon morph into taking extreme control, and we would have the 'dog weeing / execution' scenario I always quote in this type of debate.
I am not so unrealistic as to see that what you say is true - there is a rise in 'public policing' but that does not mean I will ever accept that is a necessary evil - with the accent on the 'evil'.
jack - //Laudable though their attempts at protecting 'their women' may seem, these gangs of puffed-up blokes wanting to play at soldiers usually devolve into being just as intimidating and violent as those groups they profess to be reacting against.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is......but I doubt if it is 'The sons of Odin'. //
We have cross-posted, but I see that we are of the same mine.
Left without sanction, these are the sort of people that start 'extending' their self-appointed remit - with seriously frightening consequences.
I'm not quite sure what the solution is......but I doubt if it is 'The sons of Odin'. //
We have cross-posted, but I see that we are of the same mine.
Left without sanction, these are the sort of people that start 'extending' their self-appointed remit - with seriously frightening consequences.
TWR - //I also am against mob Violence, but this is the way things will go if the Government / Police of whatever Country where this is happening will not do anything to stop it, this also includes the raping of young girls on a regular basis in Northern Towns / City's & through out the UK. //
It is - but the reaction has to be a strengthening of existing police forces, and legislation to combat criminal behaviour, rather than the grudging acceptance that mobs of vigilantes are simply an inevitable result of poor government.
It is - but the reaction has to be a strengthening of existing police forces, and legislation to combat criminal behaviour, rather than the grudging acceptance that mobs of vigilantes are simply an inevitable result of poor government.
Lots of "ifs" but if the govermnents of Europe stopped and thought through the consequences of jumping to Merkels tune they wouldn't have to concern themselves with protecting their citizens with a smaller police force than the numbers they freely welcomed and the rise of the right wing wouldn't sare so many people.
Obviously the Cologne police were taken by surprise and couldn't protect their own.
The Cologne festival has Rape protection kiosks in the town square should any woman feel intimidated,threatened or sexually abused to make a bee line there.
So ,if what we read is correct, there is a feeling of fear and intimidation amongst the women in some major cities to even venture out and they are advised how they should dress.
Then we have those who now concern themselves with the hostel inhabitants fear of intimidation.!! Well if that keeps them within the confines of the hostel in the evening then perhaps the women of Finland may feel safer and not victims in their own country.
If the Finnish Government and the German government kept them under lock and key whilst their asylum bona fides were processed then this fiasco would never of arisen. Remember: Crimes committed so far by SOO: Zero.
Shame their guests haven't restrained themselves.
Obviously the Cologne police were taken by surprise and couldn't protect their own.
The Cologne festival has Rape protection kiosks in the town square should any woman feel intimidated,threatened or sexually abused to make a bee line there.
So ,if what we read is correct, there is a feeling of fear and intimidation amongst the women in some major cities to even venture out and they are advised how they should dress.
Then we have those who now concern themselves with the hostel inhabitants fear of intimidation.!! Well if that keeps them within the confines of the hostel in the evening then perhaps the women of Finland may feel safer and not victims in their own country.
If the Finnish Government and the German government kept them under lock and key whilst their asylum bona fides were processed then this fiasco would never of arisen. Remember: Crimes committed so far by SOO: Zero.
Shame their guests haven't restrained themselves.
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andy-hughes
This is why these sort of situations exist, there are plenty to condemn what these groups are doing, but they are still prepared to let the assaults and rapes continue, until some who's job it is to legally attend to the problems, start doing what they are paid to do.
If I lived in an area where crime was so rampant that it was no longer safe to go out of one's door, and yet the police still did nothing, I would not turn my nose up at any group who were prepared to take matters in their own hands, so as to make the streets safe once more.
This is why these sort of situations exist, there are plenty to condemn what these groups are doing, but they are still prepared to let the assaults and rapes continue, until some who's job it is to legally attend to the problems, start doing what they are paid to do.
If I lived in an area where crime was so rampant that it was no longer safe to go out of one's door, and yet the police still did nothing, I would not turn my nose up at any group who were prepared to take matters in their own hands, so as to make the streets safe once more.
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