Feb generalist

[sarumite]

Not asking for answers, just confirmation on my word patterns for final three clues, as I am now going round in circles! ... I would be really grateful for confirmation only (or otherwise) of the following :-

7a M?S?S ?O?T

40a A???S ?O?P

30d D?M???A?T

Finally, I was confident of my answers for 9d and 15a but where they intersect I have "a" for 15a and "u" for 9d. Is there perhaps an alternative spelling for either answer, if so could somebody please point me in the right direction. Many thanks (S) ;o)

[slaney]

"Seamas" is what I was trying to say above O-ice (in a fairly garbled way!)

[Pantheon]

its seamAs

[Ont-ice]

Thanks both.
Pantheon did you fnd 38D?

[Pantheon]

thanks ont-ice ....

so just these two to go -----

demandant?

40a) A?N?S /// ?O?P

which language do you think 40a) is

have you finished these shaney?

[Pantheon]

Ont-ice

have you sorted bottom left?

[Ont-ice]

I tried Latin for 40A my thinking being Annus, but no joy.
Perhaps, if my thinking is in the right direction, you might have better luck.

[Pantheon]

cracked it!!!

40a) is french!

30d) is not demandant!

will give answers if you want them!

Finished!! (with some help)

[Ont-ice]

Just give me 30D for which I had demandant and I'll try to crack 40A for myself. Thanks.
Can you help me with 16A. Is it a Scottish word?

[Pantheon]

16a) ditted

30d) demurrant

[Ont-ice]

Thank you Pantheon. I think I now see the first word of 40A staring at me, but must go and have some lunch.

[Pantheon]

apres!

I am off out now ---- so good luck with second word!

[sarumite]

Goodness me !! I left home for hospital visiting at 1500 and have just returned to find my " in-box" full of messages. You certainly have been busy Ont-ice, Pantheon and slaney, but it does look as if there have been positive results. Yes, I did see your message on the MM links game Ont-ice ... we're now ready for battle next weekend!
Pleased to see answer for 30d, I was never happy with original suggestion ... I think we are just about there now?
cheers ;0)

[slaney]

I had doubts about demurrant, as this definition not quite right..
http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/E9F6AD C5-1CEA-4A32-A5413C510B47F984/alpha/D/
but it fits with 40a .
Just seen the second word of 13a ! How long did that take!
so just 7a to tidy up.

[sarumite]

Sorry slaney, I didn't realise you needed 13a .. I can't remember precisely how I found it, but it wasn't one that gave me a problem.
Yes I still need 7a also M?S?S ?O?T and additionally 40a.

[Ont-ice]

Does this help somewhat: Shown under Demur.

3. transitive and intransitive verb law make legal objection: to admit the facts of an opposing argument, but object that those facts alone are not by themselves adequate to make the case.

If the facts don't fit then there is no legal liability - that's how I read it.

[Ont-ice]

Sarumite: 40A is a French expression. Does that help?

[sarumite]

Thanks Ont-ice, I have got as far as Apres ?o?p .... will try to sort out later this evening .. as will be 'busy' for next 1� hours.

[JRB]

I agree with most of your suggestions but am off for 24 hour stay in hospital so will have to wait till I return to get this finished

(now I can find the posts again!!)

[Pantheon]

back again -

7a) is Moses Boat
(although that shipbuilder and yard seems more famous for the dory!)

13a) Athenian Bee
(Although many sources suggest that the name Plato is already a nickname!)

40a) Apres coup
(reference seems to be to after the coup - eg coup d'etat - its a bit late .... too late)

30a) as said above - I have gone with demurrant

I �find the online source found by shaney supportive, especially the first sentence ...

Demurrer:
�A request made to a court, asking it to dismiss a lawsuit on the grounds that no legal claim is asserted.�

do not the words - on the grounds that no legal claim is asserted - equate to the phrase ..... 'legal liability'?

presumably the person who makes the demurrer is a demurrant?

... and I think that the definition from Ont-ice on 'demur' is supportive?


..... perhaps it all depends on whether apr�s coup is correct!

anyway, I have convinced myself .... until somebody comes up with the right answer!!

[seekeerz]

morning all, Pantheon - I'm so glad you've gone with

Moses Boat for 7a - I guessed yesterday, but couldn't confirm and so wouldn't say - too scared lol
Where did you find it ?? S