cryptic puzzle

[altivo]

based on the score 9letters beg with vi early church father alters a vowel in the beginning 6 letters beginning with or i think it is origin but don't know why any help much appreciated thanks

[swannbaker]

Twentieth , perhaps .

[gen2]

That is a very rambling puzzle. Please separate YOUR words from the words of the clues. Please separate the words of one clue from the words of another.

I suspect you are mixing up two clues here.

HINT: Press ENTER or RETURN to start a fresh line.

[swannbaker]

That should read vicennial .

[Catron]

Origen is the early church father.

[athenae]

agree that Origen was an early church Father .... and 'in the beginning' = origin // 'alter a vowel' = origEn

can anyone explain 'Beg with vi', please?

[swannbaker]

athenae , it means that the word sought begins with the letters v i . It's the garbled language used today , S I G F M .

[athenae]

aha ....

so the word sought begins with the letters vi ?

the answer appears to be origen derived from origin ....

..... !!

Perhaps, the words 'Beg with vi' are notthing to do with this clue - mixing up 3 clues?

[athenae]

'Beg with vi' (presumably shorthand for Beginning with the letters Vi) seems to refer to the first clue given of 'based on the score = answer is vicennial ... not 'twentieth'

So, as gen2 says ....'a very rambling' question .....