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Is there an answer to the ever growing social underclass.
Highlighted recently by the Mathews case, what can be done about the whole swathe of society that have developed into a parasitical layer, an underclass, contributing nothing and living on an ever more generous benefits system. How can we get people away from the idea that you can make a career out of having children. What is the answer to the section of society that's only ambition is the aquisition of a life funded by the hard working tax payer? Where they have no aspirations for themselves and where their own children are largeky the tools by which the extract money from the state to maintain the standard lifestyle of fast food, fags and Booze. Is there no system where by this behaviour can be deterred? This is not a poitical rant but a real cross party issue. I think it's a problem that would take a generation to solve not a parliament of one colour or the other.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I remember those times well Mrs Overall. I worked in a job centre in the early 80's and spent lots of time matching people to jobs and phoning employers to arrange interviews. We used to have to question people quite thoroughly that turned down offers of jobs. That's all disappeared now, job centres just have the jobs on computers for people to look at if they wish!!
I saw this being blamed on the switch from paying benefits to the male ( wasted on booze & betting) to the female - wallet to purse as they say.
I cant say that I agree this is the cause or that reversing this will make any difference.
Main reason for single parentage was mothers with young children being raised to the top of the housing list.
I cant say that I agree this is the cause or that reversing this will make any difference.
Main reason for single parentage was mothers with young children being raised to the top of the housing list.
Even the vouchers are open to abuse Mrs O. We currently have a Sure Start Voucher system in operation which is supposed to be used for powdered baby milk, ordinary milk and fruit and veggies for people with children on benefits and limited income. The amount of young mothers I've served who come in with newborns and are using the vouchers to buy spuds and longlife UHT milk is unbelievable- how much of that is going the newborn's way?
So you think if you take money away from the poorest people in this coutnry that will somehow help?
you don't think that if you had a child and were pennyless then you might oh i dont know.... turn to stealing to feed your child?
While i dont have the answers taking benefits away from people is definately not the answer!
For example with all the job losses that are about to happen would you deny all them benefits? -im sure most would say no
so what laws would you put in place that would say some people are ok to have benefits?
Also your same laws would state that the poorest people in our country- the ones that most need it arent allowed it?
Most people want to work otherwsie our country wouldn't be great at all. the people who live on benefits don't live half as good a life as I do and I should know as I was brought up on benefits! I couldn't bear the drop in money so it wont be me on benfits.
you don't think that if you had a child and were pennyless then you might oh i dont know.... turn to stealing to feed your child?
While i dont have the answers taking benefits away from people is definately not the answer!
For example with all the job losses that are about to happen would you deny all them benefits? -im sure most would say no
so what laws would you put in place that would say some people are ok to have benefits?
Also your same laws would state that the poorest people in our country- the ones that most need it arent allowed it?
Most people want to work otherwsie our country wouldn't be great at all. the people who live on benefits don't live half as good a life as I do and I should know as I was brought up on benefits! I couldn't bear the drop in money so it wont be me on benfits.
Yes I have Jake. But there are those who see benefits as a way of not having to do a thing for your money.
One Karen Mattews springs to mind.
My son and daughter work hard for what they get yet a lot of their friends do nothing and still get paid just a little less than they do and don't have to pay for eye tests and persciptions and so.
These are the underclass I think the thread is aimed at.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
One Karen Mattews springs to mind.
My son and daughter work hard for what they get yet a lot of their friends do nothing and still get paid just a little less than they do and don't have to pay for eye tests and persciptions and so.
These are the underclass I think the thread is aimed at.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
my view.. when you first make a claim you get paid for your family unit. if you choose to have any more kids after that, you don't get more benefits.
there's a state in the US that uses the phrase, "the first one is on us, the others are on you" or something like!
I didn't get a pay rise when I had my kids, nor was a moved to a bigger house.
there's a state in the US that uses the phrase, "the first one is on us, the others are on you" or something like!
I didn't get a pay rise when I had my kids, nor was a moved to a bigger house.
Oh c'mon Jake the Peg, you're honestly telling me you don't know of a 'Karen Matthews' near you? OK, whilst most of these ******** baby breeders aren't going as far as kidnapping their children for extra cash, they all seem to have a jolly decent life, whilt churning out these future Wayne and Waynetta Slobs.
Never had the chance of living on benefits for more than six months personally, Jake. Whenever we have fallen on hard times somehow we haven't qualified for benefit because we own our own home, haven't got enough children, etc. etc., so we have had to find jobs, any jobs.
But I can't imagine anybody on this thread not knowing of a 'family' like the Matthews!! They are not exactly rare are they!!
Benefits are not abused by most people, but there are a fair few that see benefits as their right and do quite nicely thank you!! They seeem to have far more spare cash than I have ever had.
But I can't imagine anybody on this thread not knowing of a 'family' like the Matthews!! They are not exactly rare are they!!
Benefits are not abused by most people, but there are a fair few that see benefits as their right and do quite nicely thank you!! They seeem to have far more spare cash than I have ever had.
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