Black Holes And Pi?

[flobadob]

Is there any correlation between the inexplicable nature of Black Holes in outer space and the fact that Pi is a seemingly never ending number?
If a star (which we'll assume is spherical) implodes, where does the implosion end if there is no final outcome to the between mathematics of it?

[ToraToraTora]

Black holes are not innexplicable they are well understood, predicted by maths and subsequently observed (indirectly) the known force of gravity when applied to enough mass is shown mathematically to overcome the nuclear forces holding atoms together. Even the subatomic particles are overcome and matter is shown to decrease to zero size and infinite density.

[spathiphyllum]

Some theory's suggest at the end of a black hole is a white hole in a different 'universe/dimension'

[spathiphyllum]

I think the golden ratio will be more applicable with a black hole than the number Pi

[ToraToraTora]

sorry no, here is no correlation between black holes and Pi. Pi is just one of many irrational numbers.

[ToraToraTora]

my last answer was to the OP.

[ichkeria]

There was a fascinating horizon programme a while back on the subject of infinity and another on the nature of black holes.
There is a scientist out there who thinks that numbers don’t in fact go ok for ever but at some point you go back to zero again!
Pi of course does not go on forever: it cannot be expressed exactly as a number, which means that if you tried to do so you’d never stop. But that isn’t the sane thing

[ichkeria]

Same! (Or sane)

[ichkeria]

The physics at the heart of a black hole is unexplained tho of course Tora.

[spathiphyllum]

well i mean.. Pie can't go on forever because it stops before 4... Ya vibe? Every number can go to .infinity or .999 recurring kind of thing.

[TonyV]

just divide 22 by 7 and tell me what number you come up with

[spathiphyllum]

3.14285714286

[TonyV]

but thats rounded up

[TonyV]

pie is a really clever number

[Prudie]

Pi just describes the naturally occurring constant achieved when dividing the circumference of any circle by its diameter. It cannot be accurately expressed using our number system, only an approximation (22/7 being the absolute basic).

[spathiphyllum]

It is a very clever number.. especially regarding circles, but is a black 'hole' a circle, or a spiralled pit?

[spathiphyllum]

It depends if you believe in the 'fabric of time' theory. Where things spiral into the central density

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "The physics at the heart of a black hole is unexplained tho of course Tora" - it is explained, a singularity of infinite density and zero size surrounded by a theoretical border inside which nothing, not even light, can escape outside which light can escape known as an "event horizon".

[TonyV]

or a never ending tube with a spiral?

[jim360]

Singularities are non-physical objects; therefore, the physics at the centre or black holes is not fully understood. Nor will it be, likely, until there's a complete and proper unification of gravity with Quantum Mechanics.

I'm busy right now, so I'll maybe answer more later, but for the time being: as far as I can see, there's no link between pi and black holes as suggested in the question.

[flobadob]

I just came upon this article. It might be of interest to some of the people who answered within this thread.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/science/nasa-saw-something-come-out-of-a-black-hole-for-the-first-time-ever/?fbclid=IwAR0x3CkMtBjWxPrz92ginN9ZIkDiwtoR9fBmmdkY61VPkbMjdx406-QnRLI