Paypal. Do They Automatically...

[bainbrig]

Paypal. Do they automatically give out your phone number to people you’re buying from?

And if so is there a way round it?

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[bainbrig]

Corbyloon. Alright, banged to rights - although I did use the conditional 'they'd' not 'they'....

I just don't like my home phone number splashed around the internet (as it seemed Paypal was doing), and if was just an aberration, then I'd like to know why. I usually put in 0123456789 if people insist on a number, and if Paypal ARE giving mine out, they're now going to be giving out an old mobile that lives in a drawer and doesn't get turned on.

As it happens, we used to get plagued by unwanted phone calls, flogging us all sorts of crap. We signed up with the telephone preference service, which has helped a lot, and leave the phone on answerphone, which drives most of them away!

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[woofgang]

If Mrs B bought off a website, maybe she gave the website the phone number?

[bainbrig]

Mrs B is ultra-careful with such things. If you asked her the time, she'd want to know why you were asking.

She doesn't give out our phone number - scarcely wants to give out our address, except I tell her she has to if she wants things delivered here...

I've just emailed Paypal itself describing the problem and asking for their comments. Maybe it was just a one-off - maybe they'll come back and swear blind that Mrs B DID give out our number. I'll report back when they reply.

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[Peter Pedant]

// Corbyloon. Sorry to be pedantic, but my question reads "Paypal. Do they automatically give out your phone number to people you’re buying from?"//

pedantic ? that nothing ! you havent heard what I have to say

altho I woiuld have no objection
they shouldnt because it is against the current data legislation that they use if for purposes they have not disclosed

they should have a data policy spelling this out

you may have checked a box saying - yeah give it to everyone....

the fact people ring you DOESN'T mean Paypal has given your number away

the people who ring me I assume have bought it on a list from a hacker ....

[Peter Pedant]

blimey vefore I retired I was a public thingey
and part of the licence ( I had to pay and pay and pay for) was that I should be contactable

the idea I cd be a silent little meesey in my mousehole in my house and no one would know I was there, never was reality for me

[bainbrig]

Well, Peter P ("the idea I cd be a silent little meesey in my mousehole in my house and no one would know I was there, never was reality for me"), it is now, pal, isn't it? Even if you'd rather not be, silent that is.

And sorry for the big words, I know you aren't keen on seeing such pretentious erudition on ABank.

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[maggiebee]

Why does every (even simple) question result in WW3?

[bainbrig]

"Why does every (even simple) question result in WW3?"

Chortling, maggiebee, chortling. I would ask myself the same question, but I might start a fight.

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[Peter Pedant]

wow
er yeah OK - I should be more private than I am
thanks

er again and read the other bit I wrote about the Data legislation - they shouldnt unless you have consented
( they shouldnt give out your number unless you have consented to its issue. Fall-thro now is not allowed. ( if you dont tick no - we will anyway)

// Why does every (even simple) question result in WW3?//
"because the poster likes chortling".....oh well - this is AB
Hey have you seen the Fire of Notre Dame thread - it reads like one half of Ab wants to throw the half INTO the fire !

[bainbrig]

Peter I like it (the throwing of the other half into/onto the fire, that is).

You be as secret or as noisy as you like, old mate.

[chelle7272]

Yes they do automatically give it out, they confirm it here.
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/My-Account/How-do-you-keep-your-phone-number-private/m-p/1722709?advanced=false&;collapse_discussion=true&filter=location&;location=category:en&q=phone%20number%20to%20seller&search_type=thread

[Peter Pedant]

.// it is now, pal, isn't it? Even if you'd rather not be, silent that is. //
//You be as secret or as noisy as you like, old mate.//

eek - foo ! danx. ( thinks: 3 word limit, [tick] and only words AB can cope with [tick])

thanks Chelle
may well be contrary to the current new legislation
( consent means consent)

[chelle7272]

Yes it should be made clear to you under GDPR I would think, not good practice in my book anyway

[bainbrig]

chelle: thanks v.much for that.

Just for the doubters round here (and strangely enough there are some) here is part of what Mrs Paypal said in her reply:

"I would recommend referring to our PayPal Privacy Statement, specifically "Do We Share Personal Data?". We may share information with another party for transactions when you use the Services, such as other Users, merchants, and their service providers. blah blah blah This could include a phone number."

So by agreeing to Paypal's T&Cs, you DO agree that they can give out your phone number to anyone they think necessary!

The best way (to save banging your head against walls) is to put in a phoney number of some sort - but as I said before, watch it, as they'll want to send you a validation code via text, so it has to be a valid phone number. In my case I'm lucky, having an unused old Nokia in a drawer, useful for such purposes.

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