Do You Beleive That Boris Really Cares For The People?

[TheDevil]

I actually do beleive that Boris cares for the people. He seems like he is a nice person when talking to the publioc, and he has manours. These can be seen in the ITV debate, as well as when Boris goes to hospitals to talk to nurses etc..

He has humour and charm, as well as an ego to keep himself afloat in times of embaressment.

It does upset me a little to see people directing conservative faliures towards him, when he has only been PM for 6 months. What he said he would do in these 6 months, he has done.

This bodes well.

What I am nervous for is the 7 year negotiations with USA. If someone could confirm to me that the negotiations would not take 7 years, then I would be happy to go with Boris and "get brexit done" so that politics can start to unknot and the focus can be British rather than the EU and if or if not we wish to be a part of it.

This palava needs to be ended. We can't go through another year of referendums after referendums, to get a Prime Minister who doesn't beleive in his own deal.

[Zacs-Master]

Referendums? there's only been one.

[New Judge]

//What I am nervous for is the 7 year negotiations with USA. If someone could confirm to me that the negotiations would not take 7 years, then I would be happy to go with Boris and "get brexit done"//

Why does that trouble you. After we have left the EU our position regards the USA will be precisely the same - that is we trade with no specific deal. The EU (and hence the UK as a member) had no deal with the USA. They tried for about ten years (long before Trump) and failed to reach agreement. The UK will have the opportunity to negotiate its own deal with the USA unbound by the constrictions imposed by the EU and its remaining 27 members. Those negotiations may be successful, they may not. But however long they take, whilst they are going on the UK will be in precisely the same situation as it is as an EU member.

[Zacs-Master]

NJ, are we The US's most favoured nation as I understand that under a hard Brexit (and therefore WTO trade rules)the UK’s exports to other WTO members would also be subject to the importing countries’most favoured nation tariffs?

[New Judge]

Near enough, Zacs.

As I understand it, WTO rules determine that an importer cannot apply differential tariffs (except where they have a trade deal in place which takes such trade outside WTO rules). I don't quite understand how it works when the US announces punative tariffs on individual nations. At least we shouldn't be subject to that punishment when it is directed towards the EU.

Whatever it is, I cannot see our trade with the US being unduly altered whilst any negotiations take place.

[Old_Geezer]

We need Brexit done, 7 year trade discussions or no 7 year trade discussions. Only 2 parties are for that, and only one of them have a chance of getting an overall majority.

[TheDevil]

Zacs-Master - “Referendums? there's only been one”

If Labour win the general election they plan to have another referendum on brexit they will then have a referendum on Scotland’s independence.

[Zacs-Master]

I’m well aware of that, TD but you said ‘another year of referendums’ plural. And it’s 3 years since the last one (as we all well know).

NJ, first you stated ‘ After we have left the EU our position regards the USA will be precisely the same’. And later ‘ , I cannot see our trade with the US being unduly altered’.

‘Unduly’ implies some alteration. ‘Precisely’, does not.

[Cloverjo]

I don’t believe that Johnson cares a jot about the people.

[diddlydo]

This post has to be a wind-up. Of course Boris only cares about his own super-sized ego - who could think otherwise?

[New Judge]

//NJ, first you stated ‘ After we have left the EU our position regards the USA will be precisely the same’. And later ‘ , I cannot see our trade with the US being unduly altered’.

‘Unduly’ implies some alteration. ‘Precisely’, does not.//

Immediately upon leaving it will be precisely the same. As time goes on (and before any formal trade deal is concluded) small alterations may occur (which cannot whilst we are EU members) provided both sides agree. They would not be "undue" alterations.