What Unites Us As A Nation

[emmie]

if you have time to read through this, i think it's pretty accurate


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49762140

[emmie]

i have read it and concur, i don't want to see the Union break up, Nicola Sturgeon is doing irreparable damage to the country as a whole

[emmie]

see what happens after the election, i do wonder if Scotland will want to break away, i sincerely hope not.

[Old_Geezer]

I reckon there are probably thousands or more things that are generally shared beliefs. But many are held in common with other nations too. The main thing is we recognise that there are similarities we can relate to, but importantly the local islands make a good nation sized area, stronger together; it just makes sense to be one and know, deep down, the countries' borders are artificial and can move as they have throughout history. Staying as one is just common sense.

[emmie]

OG totally agree

[KARL]

Maybe this is what in the heads of UK nationals represents unity, rather like in the UK the UK is the world's best country. The matter of Scottish independence almost certainly does not revolve about any of these points and Nicola Sturgeon is voicing the aspirations of way in excess of one million voters (2014 result - now ?) so it is rather "un-democratic" to suggest she is "stirring it" plus the idea of independence goes back to before her birth (formation of the SNP).

[woofgang]

I have no idea whether its accurate or not

[naomi24]

Better to ask what separates us as a nation? And the answer to that is ambitious, power mad politicians intent upon making a name for themselves.

[TheDevil]

none of these unite us "as a nation".

Science
Abortions
Equal pay
Gay marriage
Royals?

People on AB argue abut these every day.

Just because the BBC implies these unite us as a nation doesn't mean that they do. This is just our culture, doesn't mean we're united about it.

[davebro]

If I were a Scot & didn't want Scotland to become independent of the UK I would NOT vote for the SNP. End of. Strangely many do!

[Old_Geezer]

Inevitably it revolves around ignoring the points. And when independence became an issue (not with the formation of the SNP but since well before we became a single nation) is besides the point. Pushing for a dream which is to the country's (and other nations) detriment is not a good thing to risk. The area has elected representation in the national parliament, there are no real benefits in trying to break away.

[emmie]

we always come together at the important or to some not so important times, Diana's death, The pomp and pageantry of Royal occasions, sports like the Olympics, and plenty more besides. Yes we are divided on some things but i honestly believe we are better as one country than apart as the SNP wants.

[davebro]

"we always come together at the important or to some not so important times, Diana's death, The pomp and pageantry of Royal occasions, sports like the Olympics,"

I don't regard any of those things with the least bit of interest.

[emmie]

that is why i put some won't be interested.....

[Ryzen]

Santa

[emmie]

ok ryzen, if you say so,

[KARL]

If the Scottish people want to live in a more socio-economically equal/successful/etc. society than today's UK then they have two ways of realising that. One is to emigrate out of the UK, the other is independence. Scotland in the Union will never be significantly different from the rest, the UK has put in a mediocre performance for decades (sometimes below that too - check out historical comparisons). The UK will arguably remain mediocre or worse lagging behind the most successful societies for the foreseeable future (unless you place extraordinary hope/faith in Brexit and its effects), including without an independent Scotland - it will be neither better together or worse apart. Scotland can hope that independence will provide the option of change, being different from the UK, and life actually improving faster than it has/will in the UK. There is evidence that many/most Scots have faith in themselves and believe it is a worth while step to take.

[david small]

A passport? England sleeps deeply next to Drakes Drum.

[pixie374]

I agree with those, basically, except the maternity leave part.

[ummmm]

The BBC implies abortion unites us as a nation? Well I missed that one completely.

[pixie374]

It does according to the graphs, ummm.... although it is obviously only a poll.