Drunken violence

[david51058]

It does seem that this country is getting more violent. When I was young and on the town drinking and there was a scrap between two lads, that's all it was, a few punches thrown then that was it. They may even bump into each other later on and have a drink together, no hard feelings.
Now if some poor unfortunate so much as looks at someone the wrong way, then a gang decends upon them and proceeds to stamp on their head and kick it like a football until they are in a coma or dead. Why? Where has all this anger and hate come from?

[Sqad]

ummmm..

<<<<<<< think I watched a fight more or less every weekend. Jackthehat lived opposite me....I think she remembers it as well..<<<

Was she even a trouble maker then?

[mccfluff]

i've worked in pubs for years, fights are not limited to young people

[DEN53]

My father-in-law was Manager of a pub back in the 70's - I've lost track of how many times he was threatend to be 'glassed' if he didn't keep open after hours..........(:0(

[Sqad]

ummmm....why is it that everything in retrospect is described as "looking through rose coloured spectacles?"

Nobody is disputing that drunks were about and fights ensued in the past, as that is assured, but there is an increase in numbers and intensity is in my mind beyond reasonable dispute.

[DEN53]

Sqad - I bet you were Teddy Boy causing havoc in Peterborough.......

[jackthehat]

I lived over some shops opposite ummmm's pub and so as my Sitting Room was at First Floor level, I used to get myself a cuppa, arrange the cushions on the window seat and wait for 'kicking-out' time..........:o)

I also kept the telephone to hand just in case it all got a bit out of hand...and these weren't usually young, lairy lads.........25 years ago they were often men in their 30's, and older.

[Sqad]

Den...please....I was a lead singer in a pop group called the Collegiates......we were cr@p.

I worked at the London Casualty dept Whitechapel for 6 months, that was in the time of the Krays, they were just villains, but today they are drunken villains.

[DEN53]

Sqad - the Blind Beggar in Whitechapel, was very popular with the Krays.

[Sqad]

Den...I know...there were two twin barmaids with big t1ts and I got them back after closing time to a doctor´s mess party.

We all had a go (me included) but nobody scored........they weren´t invited again LOL

[ummmm]

Jack - Abington Square was the first part of town that had cctv cameras installed.

Sqad - I think years ago they often went home and licked their wounds in private. Now they end up in A&E with a grazed knee.

[Sqad]

ummmm...you may well have a point;-)

[horseshoes]

I agree with Karenmac.

[tamborine]

too many feral youths lacking dad discipline

[douglas9401]

That's what happens when you invite international women's Subutteo goalkeepers back for a game and a drink Sqad. Incidentally, who was the other big t*t with you? :)

[DEN53]

Sqad - yep, my Nan told me..........(:0/

[andy-hughes]

ummm - it did happen years ago, i would not dispute that, but you must concede that, as david51058 has pointed out, the purpose of drinking among a lot of young people these days is to be drunk.

People seem not to drink for the pleasure of a drink - as in the continental cafe society our government laughingly thought would work here if they extended opening hours - but simply to be as drunk as possible as quickly as possible.

How else can you explain the proliferation of 'vertical' bars - where seats are removed because the drinks industry has observed, and admits, that people drink more when standing than when sitting chatting and socialising.

Pubs and bars are not the same as they were - and that is down to the drinks industry maximising the culture of binge drinking, aided and abetted by a hand-wringing but closed-eyes government who refuse to address the issue properly.

[sandyRoe]

The brewers donate a great deal of money to political parties. As a consequence their industry isn't as closely regulated as it should be.