Multiculturalism

[mungbeanz]

Isn't this just a failed social experiment that we have to endure? Only a small percentage really claim there is benefits and outside Europe and USA it isn't even considered. Why aren't Japan or Nigeria being forced to see the benefits of living in harmony with people of all races and creeds? Anyone who speaks out about it is labelled racially intolerant. If it was such a success why do we have Asian areas, Jewish areas and China Town? Other races aren't interested in this, so why should the Europeans who have it forced on them be? I am confuse.

[DrFilth]

so which parts are a lie , lots on people on this site have not been to london for years

which bits do you think are the lies, which little bit upset you enough to insult him

[New Judge]

Thanks for the support, doc.

“Bigot” - a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender.

As far as I can see I’ve shown no intolerance here. Sandy raised the issue of the Jews. I just responded to it by illustrating that he may not be quite correct and using an area I know very well as an illustration. But it's not just me describing them as strange or insular:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford_Hill

or:

http://blogs.orange.c.../jews-the-prison.html

or:

http://blogs.telegrap.../its-not-antisemitic/


I’m not intolerant of these or any other groups. They’re here; they don’t trouble me; I don’t trouble them but I’m fortunate enough to live where there is a good mix of people who mainly all get on with each other. But the debate is not about me, it’s about multiculturalism which I believe does not properly exist across the UK for the reasons I’ve tried to explain. It is an issue which troubles a number of people who are not so fortunate to live an area such as mine and saying there is no problem because it does not affect everybody does not help them.

But I’d rather this, what has been a good debate up to now, did not degenerate into a slanging match.

[Answerprancer]

As I said - I don't think it's a question of "lies".
I referred to him as a "tarted up bigot" because I believe he is.
Would you consider the phrase "Hasidic Jews, dressed in their strange clothes" as one that be said by a person who is totally devoid of bigotry ?
I was irked by (what I saw as) a certain amount of patronisation in his response to me as well as the general tone of his views on 'multiculturalism'.

[Answerprancer]

NJ, Now that you have responded, I rather regret the fact that my last post here came after yours. I don't want it to look as if I am spoiling for a flame war, I have said my piece and you have defended and I'm happy to let it lie and for the debate to continue.

[DrFilth]

so would it be wrong to say punks dressed in their strange clothes

[New Judge]

I didn’t raise the issue of “strange clothes”, AP, SandyRoe did:

“...They [the immigrant Jews] must have seemed very alien, with their strange clothing and different food.”

I was simply responding to his comment.

I lived in the area where the Orthodox Jews are populous for a quarter of a century – that’s how I know the area so well. They were no trouble then and they’re no trouble now. They’re very well behaved and respectable people - as are many immigrants in some of the other areas I mentioned in my earlier posts. But even though it was Sandy’s original notion, I believe they look somewhat strange to many people, and I also believe they are very insular which is a view shared by quite a few. But that does not make me a bigot.

I think I’ve said all I can on this matter.

[sophie_1003]

I agree with AP on this one. Britain has been a 'melting pot' throughout history, not just in recent years.

[Answerprancer]

Yes it would DrF (IMO)
Apologies then for the misunderstanding NJ.