Is There Really a Devil?

[Elderman]

Is there basis for believing that a wicked "spirit" creature exists? Or is this belief unfounded?

[sandyRoe]

Well, at least we're both in agreement on that point.
I see him as a tetchy irascible old scoundrel, but God, nevertheless. We make him in our own image.

[Elderman]

Naomi, I have posted the same thing twice?
Yes you have’t answer my question?

[Elderman]

You think how widespread is the Devil’s influence? “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one,” says the apostle John. (1 John 5:19) Of course, I do not want to become obsessed with the Devil or allow superstitious fear of him to paralyze you. If you are wise, though, to stay alert to his efforts to blind us to the truth and to break our integrity to God.( Job 2:3-5)

[jake-the-peg]

Still waiting for an explanation of the book of Job Elderman

God telling Satan to go go and torture and kill

[naomi24]

Don't expect any answers. He's talking rubbish as usual.

[Elderman]

jake-the-peg..... I will read is for you
4 But Satan answered God and said: “Skin in behalf of skin, and everything that a man has he will give in behalf of his soul. 5 For a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch as far as his bone and his flesh [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face.”
The Devil brings into question the integrity of every human. In effect, he asserts: ‘A man will do anything to save his life. Give me a chance, and I can turn every one away from God.’ Will no human remain loyal to God under all conditions and at all times?
God permits the Devil to afflict Job with a malignant disease. Job suffers so much that he prays that he might die. (Job 2:7; 14:13) Yet, Job states: “Until I expire I shall not take away my integrity from myself!” (Job 27:5) Job says this because he loves God, and nothing can change that. Job proves himself to be a man of integrity. “As for Jehovah,” states the Bible, “he blessed the end of Job afterward more than his beginning.” (Job 42:10-17) and there been many others like Job. And Naomi he got you good and proper

Naomi....A true Christian will always say what the Bible says.
To choose the right religion intelligently will require some personal study on your part. God has provided his Word, the Bible, which outlines right religion. Study the Bible. Learn its principles. Prove what is false and reject it. Prove what is true and hold it fast. “Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is right.” Christians have but “one faith.” Through a diligent study and application of the Bible, if you want find that one right religion (Eph. 4:4-6)if not why are you doing the Devil work.

[RATTER15]

What absalute and total rubbish!!!!

[RATTER15]

*absolute

[naomi24]

And he's still talking rubbish! Elderman, do you ever fear for your sanity? If I were you, I'd certainly fear for mine.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Elderman, do you lot still believe that Armageddon's coming and God's going to destroy everyone except Jehovah's Witnesses?

[Elderman]

If you say so, likely, most people using the stamps do not know that the Hebrew letters represent the name of God. But Jehovah’s Witnesses are happy to point out this feature on the stamp and to explain the meaning and importance of Jehovah’s name. Thus, from an unexpected quarter they are helped to “praise the name of Jehovah.”( Psalm 135:1)

[jomifl]

Elderman..you stated “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one,” says the apostle John.
I may have misundertood this but it seems that you are included as a subject of 'the wicked one' could you clarify this point or at least wriggle your way out of satan's clutches.

[sandyRoe]

Lucifer would like to hold sway over the entire world. But as long as there are good people, and I include atheists in that category, his hopes are going to come to nothing.

[jomifl]

Sandy.. I am shocked.. you are contradicting the apostle john. has satan's influence spread even to you?

[Elderman]

jomifl ......The fact is, your way of life can be pleasing to only one of two masters. Either you are serving God or Satan the Devil. A principle found in the Bible helps us to appreciate this. It says: “Do you not know that if you keep presenting yourselves to anyone as slaves to obey him, you are slaves of him because you obey him?” (Romans 6:16) Whom do you obey? Whose will do you do? Regardless of your answer, if you follow the unrighteous ways of the world you cannot be serving the true God, you only think for a moment about some of the things that you have read about Christmas.

[hundreddolla]

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was that one where he pulled a rabbit out of a top hat!

Who'd a thunk it!?!?!

[jomifl]

Thankyou Elderman ..once again you have saved me from the clutches of satan just as i was about to succumb to one of his cunning tricks..so the biscuit tin remains closed ..for the time being.

[naomi24]

Elderman, //The fact is, your way of life can be pleasing to only one of two masters. Either you are serving God or Satan the Devil. //

You're fibbing again. That is not a fact. Facts demand proof - and you have none.

Additionally, you left the last and only factual option out, and that is to serve no master - which is what most of us here choose. I guess some people have grown out of selfish, dependent, childish fantasies - and some have not.

[ludwig]

If he does exist you're doing his work Elderman. Every time you post your nonsense another few people reject god.