Sir and / or Lord

smurfchops | 15:41 Sun 12th Aug 2012 | Society & Culture

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What is the difference?

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sandyRoe

If you were the first born son of a lord you'll become a lord by inheriting his title eventually.
A Knighthood is an honour awarded by ER

factor-fiction

Is it Lord Coe?

factor-fiction

Was he a Sir initially?
Maybe Sir Sebastian was too much of a mouthful.
He was made a Life Peer when entering the House of Lords

smurfchops

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How does one become a Lord in the first place , i.e. Lord Sugar?? He was Sir Alan first ..

Mosaic

I'm assuming a Lord is someone entitled to sit (or sleep) in the Upper House of Parliament.
Whereas a Sir is simply someone who has been knighted.

sandyRoe

In the case of Lord Sugar he was nominated by the then PM, Blair. There are hereditary lords, who get the title when their dad pops his clogs, and those nominated by political leaders.

factor-fiction

Seb Coe is a Baron

Graham-W

There are two types of peerage (lord). First one is inherited by the first born son of someone whose distant relative did a King or a Queen a great favour and was knighted to be Lord Smurf of Choppingham for example. His wife would be Lady Smurf of Choppingham. The Lord gets paid for turning up to the House of Lords.
Latterly there have been Lifetime peerages which last only the life of the person who gets it. These also get paid for turning up.
You can also be knighted and become a Sir without being offered a peerage. eg Sir Jimmy Saville. Usually for good work in the community.

FredPuli43

And a man may be a baronet, which is shown as 'Bart' after his surname (Sir A. B, Bart). That now means he is a Sir, a knight, by inheritance; his father was a baronet.

Lord Coe has things the wrong way round. He was made a Lord first, for political reasons, and made a knight later, for his services to sport. Usually the lesser honour of knight is awarded before the peerage, the higher rank, is granted.

johnny37

The awards will be flying about when they come up again (New Year I think).

Who will get what? Lord Coe to be made Master Of The Universe?
Yeah, I know Ive been complaing about daft answers lately but I thought that was funny.

sandyRoe

I still think Coe should be made Duke of Stratford, Bow, and Leyton. How else could the nation thank him?