Europen War

[Bloomy]

Do you think it'll happen eventually. European Union replacing the old Soviet union?

[modeller]

jtp Isn't that what I said ? Cameron wants to cherry pick parts ! Renegotiate ! Call it what you will !
They ( the other members ) would all have to agree and they wont. Why would they ? They are still smarting about our discount forced on them by Maggie and despite getting half of it back from Blair.
The only way we might get some bits back, is if Cameron hand bagged them and if a few other members also wanted the same bits back. Neither of which is likely at the moment.

//Poland needed agreement from all Soviet Bloc countries to leave the Soviet Bloc // Yes which precipitated the blocs collapse.

[LazyGun]

The terms of membership - indeed the fundamental principles of what constitutes the club - will always be open to renegotiation. There are areas most notably on trade, federalisation and funding of social projects where we can find common ground with other influential members within the EU, most notably Germany.

That's not something that could be done in the old Soviet Russia, so I think the comparison from the OP facile.

I know there are many people in the UK who dislike the EU project enormously, referring to it,half-jokingly one imagines, as the "EUSSR", but really - the likelihood of another war in Europe, especially over the membership or the terms of the EU agreement strikes me as extremely improbable.

[jake-the-peg]

Why won't they renegotiate?

Nothing to do with smarting over previous agreements - everything to do with maintaining stability

Try renegotiating membership of a Golf Club where you get th use the facilities without paying fees and see how far you get

[sandyRoe]

Some residents of the Soviet Union adopted a Stakhanovite attitude to work. We'd be much better off if we could see more of that philosophy here.

[LazyGun]

If by Stakhanovite principles you mean that people should work to the best of their abilities, and we should make use of technology and find innovative alternatives to increase productivity, I would probably agree with you.

If on the other hand, you mean we should encourage a culture whereby anyone who works less than 14 hours a day, or who is harshly penalised for exceeding inflated productivity quotas - which is often the negative consequence - then i would vehemently disagree :)

[ToraToraTora]

"Try renegotiating membership of a Golf Club where you get th use the facilities without paying fees and see how far you get "

absolutely jake but I don't know of many golf clubs where 3 people actually pay and the rest free load, do you?

[New Judge]

Or where three people pay ridiculously inflated subscriptions and their cash is distributed amongst all the other members.

“I think you should complain to the MEP you voted for about the dicatorial totalitarist regime of the EU! “

Not much point in doing that, jake. MEPs have about as much influence over EU Commissioners as I have (and I cost the taxpayer a lot less).

“…everything to do with maintaining stability “

Yes jake, the Eurozone is particularly stable at the moment as I’m sure the good citizens of Greece, Portugal, Cyprus and Spain will attest.