Would You Die For This Country?

[Colmc54]

The government is launching a multi-million pound army recruitment campaign, there must be a reason why. The country in question is the UK, soon not to be the UK if the people currently resident in Scotland decide to jump ship.

So my question is would you die for your country? What would you actually think you were giving your life for, and could the bravest stance be if nobody signed up to serve in the army of the party-political playground of psychopathy that is the politics of our state.

If your answer is yes, as someone who will be 60 this year whose answer is no, would you mind explaining to me why you could possibly be so inclined?

[Wharton]

Why the Coldstream Guards in particular? My grandfather was in the Cameronians in the first world war, won a MC and was killed defending the aforesaid spivs. After independence Scotland will go its own way and apologise to the countries where blood was spilled by Scots on behalf of the UK. It won't happen again.

[janbee]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !! For my family ... yes, for my country, no, never. My country doesn't give a rats about me and would quickly sacrifice me without a second thought.

[jeffa]

The Coldstream Guards was just an example. My grandfather died at Suvla Bay. So, if your country were to be invaded by a foreign agressor, you would simply roll over and allow yourself to be conquered?

[Wharton]

You missed out an 'O' there. janbee :-)

[Wharton]

My country (Scotland) HAS been invaded by a foreign aggressor, and I intend getting rid of it come September.

[jeffa]

So why do you refuse to answer the OP's question? If Scotland were to be invaded again by a foreign agressor, would you be willing to give your life to defend it? If not, would you expect someone else to do that for you or would you just roll over and be conquered?

[douglas9401]

Please miss, jeffa's being a bully and a keyboard warrior.

[Wharton]

No, I wouldn't die for my country; I don't have one, but after September when the English, Welsh and Northern Irish drift off into Atlantis fantasy land and then try to join up again, I'd give it another thought.

[pixie373]

I'm with janbee...

[Wharton]

fender62 - and if the civil war was started by one big majority group?

[China Doll]

No, I would not.

[woofgang]

I don't think that, in war, you "die for your country"., you die to protect the people and things that you love. I am not sure why young men and women join the armed forces in these days, I guess you'd have to ask them.

[Baldric]

As someone who spent a good few years in Uniform I was going to contribute when I saw the thread title, but having read through it it has turned into a poorly scripted advert for Scottish Independence.

[jim360]

If I could be persuaded that the best way I could serve this country was to put my life on the line, then I think yes, I would die for it. I'm very hopeful, though, that there are other, less violent ways in which I could serve, e.g. in the logistics or support forces, which are in their own way equally as important. My suspicion is that by the time I'd need to lay my life on the line, "my country" would already be too far gone to save anyway. Certainly I'd want to try to avoid fighting on the front lines. Not that I don't have all respect for those who do choose to, but I'd really rather not.

[ChillDoubt]

I concur with Baldric.

[Wharton]

Baldric - If you're looking for information on Scottish independence, read the White Paper "Scotland's Future".

[Wharton]

.....and you too ChillDoubt.

[FredPuli43]

What did General Patton supposedly say ? "War is not about dying for your country. War is about making some other poor bastard die for HIS country!"

"Dulce et decorum est prop patria mori", "It is a lovely and noble thing to die for one's country" Fine for a Roman poet, Horace, who never saw battle, but "the old lie" for a British one, Wilfred Owen, who did.

No, is the answer. It would be an incidence of my fighting to prevent others from defeating this country with dire consequences.

[Baldric]

. . . "Frankly my dear"