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Church Marriage Vows
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Given the high failure rate of first marriages, are vows taken too lightly?
What would you like to see done differently either in the Marriage service to strengthen what the union means or perhaps you would like to see change in the way people are brought together to prevent relationships from being irretrievably broken down?
What would you like to see done differently either in the Marriage service to strengthen what the union means or perhaps you would like to see change in the way people are brought together to prevent relationships from being irretrievably broken down?
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ag/naomi I agree, I can't see how any agency can re-connect a couple if there isn't that feeling between them any more. I wouldn't want to have my marriage under scrutiny by strangers for a start.
ag/naomi I agree, I can't see how any agency can re-connect a couple if there isn't that feeling between them any more. I wouldn't want to have my marriage under scrutiny by strangers for a start.
Just 2 points. There is only one reason for divorce now, that the marriage has irretrievably broken down. There is no concept of 'blame' or 'Fault'
As has been pointed there are very sound reasons to do with inheritance and taxation that a marriage is important rather than just being a 'piece of paper'. The type of marriage is not important, a 10 min ceremony in a register office with just the couple and a witness is just as good for the inheritance and taxation reasons as a £100000 Church wedding .
Lastly I do not think there is a higher or lower divorce rate between church and other weddings.
As has been pointed there are very sound reasons to do with inheritance and taxation that a marriage is important rather than just being a 'piece of paper'. The type of marriage is not important, a 10 min ceremony in a register office with just the couple and a witness is just as good for the inheritance and taxation reasons as a £100000 Church wedding .
Lastly I do not think there is a higher or lower divorce rate between church and other weddings.
Naomi.... I agree with you at 08:17.
But the easy availability of divorces is perhaps the reason why so many marriages break down in the first place. Marriage seems to be looked upon as a sort-temporary membership of a club, that is its really not very important and is disposable. While I agree that people should be able to get out of unhappy contracts, it is always the children that suffer. My youngest brother was terribly affected by our parents divorce, as he was only 13 at the time. Looking at him now, I can see that the trauma he suffered 33 years ago made irreversible changes to him, and certainly not for the better. I see it in other children that I know in the same situation. Not sure what the solution is though.
But the easy availability of divorces is perhaps the reason why so many marriages break down in the first place. Marriage seems to be looked upon as a sort-temporary membership of a club, that is its really not very important and is disposable. While I agree that people should be able to get out of unhappy contracts, it is always the children that suffer. My youngest brother was terribly affected by our parents divorce, as he was only 13 at the time. Looking at him now, I can see that the trauma he suffered 33 years ago made irreversible changes to him, and certainly not for the better. I see it in other children that I know in the same situation. Not sure what the solution is though.
My parents split when I was 8. It was the best decision my mum made. I didn't know how unhappy she was until we were settled into our new home and my dad really made an effort with us after the split. We spent more quality time with him. I must add though....I have absolutely no memory of any arguments.
I dont ever remember my parents even speaking to each other, my mother was totally devoted to myself and my siblings, I couldn't have wished for a better more loving mother. My father was a self centred perverse bully that worked to cover his own living expenses.
The day I reached 18 years of age, he proudly said to me, "now that you are 18, I will move out, I wanted to see that you were an adult before I left"
Well I wished he had left when I was much younger!! He done nothing for me or my brothers and sisters and he was a B@st@rd to my Mother. If he had left and divorced many years earlier, my mother would have had a chance at a happy and loving marriage and I and my siblings would have known what it was like to have a father! The best thing my father ever done for me was to die!!
The day I reached 18 years of age, he proudly said to me, "now that you are 18, I will move out, I wanted to see that you were an adult before I left"
Well I wished he had left when I was much younger!! He done nothing for me or my brothers and sisters and he was a B@st@rd to my Mother. If he had left and divorced many years earlier, my mother would have had a chance at a happy and loving marriage and I and my siblings would have known what it was like to have a father! The best thing my father ever done for me was to die!!