Hasidic Jewish And Female Living In Stamford Hill, Then You Don't Get To Drive?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/leaders-of-jewish-hasidic-sect-in-stamford-hill-ban-women-from-driving-10280786.html

[hc4361]

I don't know why this is news, this sort of thing has been going on in Stamford Hill for generations, using the Beth Din courts for all aspects of life.

[andy-hughes]

That seems to be the gist of it.

[hc4361]

There are eruvs in Manchester and London with more planned which have never been considered a subject of debate on AnswerBank.

[mushroom25]

//There are eruvs in Manchester and London with more planned which have never been considered a subject of debate on AnswerBank. //

probably because eruv dwellers aren't renowned for flying planes into tall buildings or blowing up underground trains.

[hc4361]

What has that got to do with it, mushroom?

[-Talbot-]

Regardless, no group should be allowed to ban women in Britain from driving.

[shoota]

The ban only works if those banned choose to submit to it.

[hc4361]

Talbot, the women concerned may choose to follow the ruling, or disregard it.

No different from Catholics being 'banned' from using contraception by their church.

[aelmpvw]

driving in stamford hill must be a nightmare, you'd think they'd be pleased

[-Talbot-]

The word used is 'Banned' is that really a choice?

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// No different from Catholics being 'banned' from using contraception by their church. ///

Hasn't your dad had a word with you, there is a great deal of difference from not being allowed to drive a car and not being allowed to practice birth control. :0)

[shoota]

It is not enforceable under British law therefore the 'banee' can decide whether to abide by it or not.
I accept that it may be a decision involving an amount of social upheaval but she could always opt out.

[hc4361]

Is that word used, Talbot? I haven't seen a copy of the letter and the word is in inverted commas in the news report.

[andy-hughes]

AOG - ///// No different from Catholics being 'banned' from using contraception by their church. ///

Hasn't your dad had a word with you, there is a great deal of difference from not being allowed to drive a car and not being allowed to practice birth control. :0) //

In this context - there is no difference -

the rules are made by people who don't have to live by them, for the benefit of their own power trip, regardless of the inconvenience at least, and life-changing misery at worst, that are the effects of their unreasonable and impractical brainstorms.

[-Talbot-]

I'm taking it that this kind of behavior towards women is seen as acceptable then?

I know nothing about the Jewish way of life but this sounds just like Muslim women a free not to wear the Burka even if the loving husband insists she does wear it.

[Raleigh]

hc4361: An eruv has absolutely no affect on non-jews. It is a notional boundary that allows them to carry books, push a stroller and similar activities on certain days.

This is unlike a lot of the crazy laws the people mushroom25 was referring to have.

[hc4361]

The laws of any religion have no impact on me or my way of life, Raleigh

[atalanta]

I look forward to a court case where a family sues the school for discriminating against their children. This hasn't a chance of standing up in English law.
You should study the lifestyle of the Hassidim. An eye-opener, indeed. They follow the most extraordinary practices. For instance, this is the whole of their sex-education;
The bridegroom is told " You must satisfy your wife"
The bride is told "It gets better".
Hassidim actually forbid any sex-education whatsoever.

[mikey4444]

It would seem that its not just the Muslims that make unfair demands on women !

Good, old-fashioned misogyny, nothing more or less !

[dannyk13]

Perhaps the ban is intended as a road safety measure--retires quickly.