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Bbc News, Integrtion Has Not Worked With Muslims
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just heard it on news, they were talking about muslims integrating into germany and merkel now has a massive task on her hands to find a solution to the problem, they talked about the problems that faced france and jaques chirac banning of the burhka etc when he was in charge, german security experts are now saying that they believe isis teams are active in germany asfter coming into the country disquised as refugees , wow really !! .
for me , the fact is that muslims cant intergrate fully with western society, i mean look what they are taught in their koran , such verses here - “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123 also here - Quran 8:59-60 / Quran 2:286 / Quran 3:147 / Quran 8:12 /
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51
so there you have it in black and white, how to hell can these people fit in with us, i cannot see any solution to the problem.
merkel and co have only added to the problems .
for me , the fact is that muslims cant intergrate fully with western society, i mean look what they are taught in their koran , such verses here - “Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123 also here - Quran 8:59-60 / Quran 2:286 / Quran 3:147 / Quran 8:12 /
“Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51
so there you have it in black and white, how to hell can these people fit in with us, i cannot see any solution to the problem.
merkel and co have only added to the problems .
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fiction-factory //Maybe debate on issues relating to Islam is pointless on AB as there is a handful who claim to know so much about it that no other view will be countenanced //
There is no debate!
We are reduced to some individuals posting a viewpoint or an opinion, and that being shot down by those who appoint themselves as guardians of the facts, who then accuse said posters of spreading inaccuracies!
It is nonsense, and I believe it is against the spirit of debate, and the spirit of the site.
I can make up my own mind about Islam, I am sure others can too - and if I believe that someone is offering an opinion, and may not have Imam-levels of insight, then I can live with it.
Life is too short to do otherwise.
There is no debate!
We are reduced to some individuals posting a viewpoint or an opinion, and that being shot down by those who appoint themselves as guardians of the facts, who then accuse said posters of spreading inaccuracies!
It is nonsense, and I believe it is against the spirit of debate, and the spirit of the site.
I can make up my own mind about Islam, I am sure others can too - and if I believe that someone is offering an opinion, and may not have Imam-levels of insight, then I can live with it.
Life is too short to do otherwise.
andy-hughes, // If I print something which you believe to be wrong (and that does not mean that it is wrong, it is just your view)//
No, it isn’t just my view. That’s the point. My posts on this subject can be authenticated – and will you please stop being rude to me. Refuting your erroneous opinions does not equate to personal criticism.
No, it isn’t just my view. That’s the point. My posts on this subject can be authenticated – and will you please stop being rude to me. Refuting your erroneous opinions does not equate to personal criticism.
Naomi - from 11:05 - //Hogging threads with your endless criticism of me is becoming unacceptable.
I have tried to stop it by advising I will no longer debate with you, that has not worked.
So again, for the sake of the threads, the site, and my sanity, leave me alone. //
In case you missed it the first time again.
I have tried to stop it by advising I will no longer debate with you, that has not worked.
So again, for the sake of the threads, the site, and my sanity, leave me alone. //
In case you missed it the first time again.
Naomi - //Naomi - from 11:05 - //Hogging threads with your endless criticism of me is becoming unacceptable.
I have tried to stop it by advising I will no longer debate with you, that has not worked.
So again, for the sake of the threads, the site, and my sanity, leave me alone. //
In case you missed it the second time again.
I have tried to stop it by advising I will no longer debate with you, that has not worked.
So again, for the sake of the threads, the site, and my sanity, leave me alone. //
In case you missed it the second time again.
And the lesson for today is:
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UPDATE:
'Figures released in July by Destatis, the government's statistics agency, showed that more than 2.1 million people migrated to Germany in 2015.
More than 33,000 migrants who are supposed to be deported are still in Germany and are being cared for by German taxpayers. Many of the migrants destroyed their passports and are believed to have lied about their countries of origin to make it impossible for them to be deported. Others have gone into hiding so that immigration police cannot find them.
An investigative report by Bavarian Radio BR24 found that deradicalization programs in Germany are failing, because many Salafists do not want to become deradicalized.
"My impression is that we all underestimated a year ago what was in store for us with this big refugee and migration movement. Integration is a Herculean task that does not end with a three-week language course." — Jens Spahn, CSU politician.'
'Figures released in July by Destatis, the government's statistics agency, showed that more than 2.1 million people migrated to Germany in 2015.
More than 33,000 migrants who are supposed to be deported are still in Germany and are being cared for by German taxpayers. Many of the migrants destroyed their passports and are believed to have lied about their countries of origin to make it impossible for them to be deported. Others have gone into hiding so that immigration police cannot find them.
An investigative report by Bavarian Radio BR24 found that deradicalization programs in Germany are failing, because many Salafists do not want to become deradicalized.
"My impression is that we all underestimated a year ago what was in store for us with this big refugee and migration movement. Integration is a Herculean task that does not end with a three-week language course." — Jens Spahn, CSU politician.'
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