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Can We Arrest The Slide Towards Becomming Britainistan?
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How long has the UK got in it's current form? Will we wake up in time to save ourselves?
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I always find V_E’s posts well thought out, Mikey, though I don’t always agree with them.
Muslims born in the UK don’t tend to have many more offspring than non-Muslims. Immigrants do, but hopefully we are about to reduce that number drastically. There are also many Muslims born here who tend not to be spiritual Muslims. Perhaps they don’t denounce their faith but they are not strict followers of the faith. In essence using maths I can’t get from where we are now to ‘Britainistan’ anytime soon, thankfully.
On another note, non-Muslims better raise the birth rate to the level of British-born Muslims soon or we will be dependent on immigrants to keep us going. People living longer has masked the falling birth rate for some time, but that can’t last forever.
Muslims born in the UK don’t tend to have many more offspring than non-Muslims. Immigrants do, but hopefully we are about to reduce that number drastically. There are also many Muslims born here who tend not to be spiritual Muslims. Perhaps they don’t denounce their faith but they are not strict followers of the faith. In essence using maths I can’t get from where we are now to ‘Britainistan’ anytime soon, thankfully.
On another note, non-Muslims better raise the birth rate to the level of British-born Muslims soon or we will be dependent on immigrants to keep us going. People living longer has masked the falling birth rate for some time, but that can’t last forever.
kvalidir, //you cannot stipulate that Muslims can't home educate but everyone else can//
I haven’t suggested the abolition of home education apply only to Muslims - it would, in the interests of objectivity, have to apply across the board – with faith schools going the same way.
// it doesn't matter who or what I am personally in terms of ethnicity, creed or class, so your point is irrelevant.//
Since you were not exposed to the restrictive, inaccurate, and misogynistic education that we are allowing Muslim children to be subjected to, who and what you are is entirely relevant. We are currently ignoring the reality that children from one section of the community are not only being isolated from the western society in which they live, but are also being exposed to an education that grossly misinforms, submerging them in the tenets of a philosophy that promotes and endorses beliefs and practices that I would have thought – and hoped – a self-proclaimed champion of justice like you would find wholly unacceptable. As one who clearly appreciates the comprehensive education you say you have received, your apparent support for what I can only describe as an abuse of youthful intellect, is utterly beyond me.
Mikey to v_e, // complete, ill thought out tosh !//
If you want to be taken seriously in a discussion such as this you need to expound upon that, detailing your reasons for reaching that conclusion. ‘Tosh’ simply doesn’t cut it.
I haven’t suggested the abolition of home education apply only to Muslims - it would, in the interests of objectivity, have to apply across the board – with faith schools going the same way.
// it doesn't matter who or what I am personally in terms of ethnicity, creed or class, so your point is irrelevant.//
Since you were not exposed to the restrictive, inaccurate, and misogynistic education that we are allowing Muslim children to be subjected to, who and what you are is entirely relevant. We are currently ignoring the reality that children from one section of the community are not only being isolated from the western society in which they live, but are also being exposed to an education that grossly misinforms, submerging them in the tenets of a philosophy that promotes and endorses beliefs and practices that I would have thought – and hoped – a self-proclaimed champion of justice like you would find wholly unacceptable. As one who clearly appreciates the comprehensive education you say you have received, your apparent support for what I can only describe as an abuse of youthful intellect, is utterly beyond me.
Mikey to v_e, // complete, ill thought out tosh !//
If you want to be taken seriously in a discussion such as this you need to expound upon that, detailing your reasons for reaching that conclusion. ‘Tosh’ simply doesn’t cut it.
kvalidir,
as I have no idea whether you are "a self-proclaimed champion of justice" or prone to making "unpleasant remark"(s), you have been a member for several years yet seem unaware certain members are very able to twist words and set the parameters of any debate to suit their needs.(?)
> can always be enforced or ignored, as was always the case. { and bypassed by 'old hands' anyway.}
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as I have no idea whether you are "a self-proclaimed champion of justice" or prone to making "unpleasant remark"(s), you have been a member for several years yet seem unaware certain members are very able to twist words and set the parameters of any debate to suit their needs.(?)
> can always be enforced or ignored, as was always the case. { and bypassed by 'old hands' anyway.}
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