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Why do the Russians want to destroy us? Is the UK really that much of a threat to them? Is it because they can?
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You have to bear in mind that many of the folk making these prophesies of doom are Admirals, Generals and Air Chief Marshals. They have a vested interest to have as much money spent on defence as they deem fit (which will never be enough).
As it happens I believe our defence budget is woefully inadequate but I don't think the principle threat comes from Russia. Though if the EU continues its quest for expansion, it may well be that the Ruskies get the hump.
As it happens I believe our defence budget is woefully inadequate but I don't think the principle threat comes from Russia. Though if the EU continues its quest for expansion, it may well be that the Ruskies get the hump.
If you make a big fuss about threats like eg cutting of undersea cables there is just perhaps less of a chance that it will actually happen for one thing.
But only one European country in the last few decades, since Turkey in the 70s, has invaded its neighbours. Twice in the space of 7 years in fact.
But only one European country in the last few decades, since Turkey in the 70s, has invaded its neighbours. Twice in the space of 7 years in fact.
Pardon?
If you mean Afrin, not sure Syria counts as a sovereign state any more. It’s got Kurdish, Turkish, Russian, American, Iranian forces blowing the bejasus out of whoever they think is the enemy.
Not sure what you mean by Serbia/Croatia: if you mean the war in Croatia in the nineties that was a war of independence largely between Serbs in Croatia, and of the Yugoslavian army and the Croats. Neither country existed at the time although Croatia was recognised as independent first.
Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus and Russia’s first of Georgia and then Ukraine were unprovoked attacks on sovereign states.
If you mean Afrin, not sure Syria counts as a sovereign state any more. It’s got Kurdish, Turkish, Russian, American, Iranian forces blowing the bejasus out of whoever they think is the enemy.
Not sure what you mean by Serbia/Croatia: if you mean the war in Croatia in the nineties that was a war of independence largely between Serbs in Croatia, and of the Yugoslavian army and the Croats. Neither country existed at the time although Croatia was recognised as independent first.
Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus and Russia’s first of Georgia and then Ukraine were unprovoked attacks on sovereign states.
The defence secretary is probably wrong to use the term "kill us by the thousands" but to deny there is a threat is foolish.
We've fallen way behind the Russians in certain forms of warcraft, especially electronic, but also in terms on quick response. The conflicts they've recently been involved in have allowed them to learn from their mistakes.
The most interesting question is "why" - not "destroy" us exactly, but their actions raise fears and suspicions. In the recent Zapad exercise example, they got out of having foreign observers there by breaking it down into a series of distinct bits each of which was less than the level at which they would have had to allow them
We've fallen way behind the Russians in certain forms of warcraft, especially electronic, but also in terms on quick response. The conflicts they've recently been involved in have allowed them to learn from their mistakes.
The most interesting question is "why" - not "destroy" us exactly, but their actions raise fears and suspicions. In the recent Zapad exercise example, they got out of having foreign observers there by breaking it down into a series of distinct bits each of which was less than the level at which they would have had to allow them
The biggest danger when you have a leader like Putin flexing his military muscle, souping up his armed forces, etc etc is that some sort of major conflict will occur almost by accident.
In any event the Russians have an astounding amount of resources ploughed into electronic warfare and espionage. Some of the latter involves massive investment in ‘illegals’ abroad, which suggests a long long game being played. To whatever end.
When war broke out in E Ukraine it was staged largely by ‘sleepers’ who’d been there for years.
The reasons for this aggression are hard for us to fathom but I’d say it largely boils down to a national obsession with what the rest of the world thinks of them combined with an almost mystical belief in their status as the true inheritors of the Christian faith. Sounds daft I know but sometimes you have to dig deep to understand what makes people behave the way they do.
It isn’t just Putin. And conversely you can’t generalise across an entire people, but when you have someone like him holding sway then the worst traits of the nation sadly get pushed to the fire
In any event the Russians have an astounding amount of resources ploughed into electronic warfare and espionage. Some of the latter involves massive investment in ‘illegals’ abroad, which suggests a long long game being played. To whatever end.
When war broke out in E Ukraine it was staged largely by ‘sleepers’ who’d been there for years.
The reasons for this aggression are hard for us to fathom but I’d say it largely boils down to a national obsession with what the rest of the world thinks of them combined with an almost mystical belief in their status as the true inheritors of the Christian faith. Sounds daft I know but sometimes you have to dig deep to understand what makes people behave the way they do.
It isn’t just Putin. And conversely you can’t generalise across an entire people, but when you have someone like him holding sway then the worst traits of the nation sadly get pushed to the fire
